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Did we disagree on something before?
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looks like this is from the same show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GiyhoE4W2c
looks like this is from the same show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GiyhoE4W2c
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I had to post this as I was having a discussion with Sludgenutz over Tony Iommi using P-90's and these later pickups (at this stage of his career in this JD guitar) are humbuckers as you can see 12 poles.
I know it looks more like a p-90 casing, but I can only assume it is alot like the way Seymour Duncan can now make humbuckers under P-90 covers.
I did see older videos of Tony using Gibsons with actual P-90s so I'm not surprised he stuck with what he was used to and maybe John Birch wound these humbuckers to sound more like a P-90 as they do have a P-90 tone from them.
I had to post this as I was having a discussion with Sludgenutz over Tony Iommi using P-90's and these later pickups (at this stage of his career in this JD guitar) are humbuckers as you can see 12 poles.
I know it looks more like a p-90 casing, but I can only assume it is alot like the way Seymour Duncan can now make humbuckers under P-90 covers.
I did see older videos of Tony using Gibsons with actual P-90s so I'm not surprised he stuck with what he was used to and maybe John Birch wound these humbuckers to sound more like a P-90 as they do have a P-90 tone from them.
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Another thing interesting I never noticed with Ozza era Sabbath, is that Tony Iommi has just as much of the spot light on him as Ozzy did. I find that particularly funny, as usually it is the lead singer that gets it 100%. In these videos, Tony Iommi is center stage most of the time and Ozzy is off to Stage Right.
Another thing interesting I never noticed with Ozza era Sabbath, is that Tony Iommi has just as much of the spot light on him as Ozzy did. I find that particularly funny, as usually it is the lead singer that gets it 100%. In these videos, Tony Iommi is center stage most of the time and Ozzy is off to Stage Right.
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...and told everybody to clap their f'ing hands. A jubilee of talent.
I will say in Ozzy's defense, however, that I think he came up with the lyrics for most -- if not all -- of the songs. He's also got a very cool and inimitable voice; too bad it usually sucks live.
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...and told everybody to clap their f'ing hands. A jubilee of talent.
I will say in Ozzy's defense, however, that I think he came up with the lyrics for most -- if not all -- of the songs. He's also got a very cool and inimitable voice; too bad it usually sucks live.
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Actually he didn't, Geezer basically wrote all the lyrics, that's what they also say themselves, Ozzy's role was "only" to sing and cheer up the crowd, but the latter he was a master at, I forgot to mention that in my post.. Maybe he wasn't the world's best live singer but his spirit and way of cheering up the crowd is some of the most excellent work I've seen from a frontman in a long time.
PS: when Dio and the other singers joined, I think they participated in the lyric-writing, if not writing all of it, I am not sure.. but I know that in the Ozzy era all lyrics were wrote by Geezer, unless everything I've read and heard from the bandmembers wasn't true :laugh2:
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Actually he didn't, Geezer basically wrote all the lyrics, that's what they also say themselves, Ozzy's role was "only" to sing and cheer up the crowd, but the latter he was a master at, I forgot to mention that in my post.. Maybe he wasn't the world's best live singer but his spirit and way of cheering up the crowd is some of the most excellent work I've seen from a frontman in a long time.
PS: when Dio and the other singers joined, I think they participated in the lyric-writing, if not writing all of it, I am not sure.. but I know that in the Ozzy era all lyrics were wrote by Geezer, unless everything I've read and heard from the bandmembers wasn't true :laugh2:
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Well that sucks, because Ozzy gets writing credits on just about every Sabbath tune. He probably came up with all the cool drum fills.
Well that sucks, because Ozzy gets writing credits on just about every Sabbath tune. He probably came up with all the cool drum fills.
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Well, I don't know about who owns which rights to which songs, I've just heard them say that Geezer wrote the lyrics, but writing the lyrics doesn't mean you make all the vocal arrangements/melodies, so that's what I guess Ozzy came up with, but I don't know if you can get 'copyrights' on that in a song, lol... Maybe they just decided to share the rights to everything between all the bandmembers, so there wouldn't be any anger towards each other when it came to getting paid, etc.
KGMESSIER said:Well that sucks, because Ozzy gets writing credits on just about every Sabbath tune. He probably came up with all the cool drum fills.
Well, I don't know about who owns which rights to which songs, I've just heard them say that Geezer wrote the lyrics, but writing the lyrics doesn't mean you make all the vocal arrangements/melodies, so that's what I guess Ozzy came up with, but I don't know if you can get 'copyrights' on that in a song, lol... Maybe they just decided to share the rights to everything between all the bandmembers, so there wouldn't be any anger towards each other when it came to getting paid, etc.
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I think the only song Ozzy had any part of as far as melody/arrangement with vocals or writing lyrics was "Who Are You?". I think for some weird reason they had him playing the Moog as well, which strikes me as odd since Tony does play piano and I would have assumed he'd play any kind of piano/keyboard/synth stuff up to the point till they got Rick Wakeman or Geoff Nichols or Jeff Woodruff filling in.
I think the only song Ozzy had any part of as far as melody/arrangement with vocals or writing lyrics was "Who Are You?". I think for some weird reason they had him playing the Moog as well, which strikes me as odd since Tony does play piano and I would have assumed he'd play any kind of piano/keyboard/synth stuff up to the point till they got Rick Wakeman or Geoff Nichols or Jeff Woodruff filling in.
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Did Sabbath really get Wakeman to play on some stuff???
Did Sabbath really get Wakeman to play on some stuff???
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Dizzam! That's pretty cool. I love Sabbath and Wakeman; never realized for years I'd heard them together on a song or two.
Dizzam! That's pretty cool. I love Sabbath and Wakeman; never realized for years I'd heard them together on a song or two.
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Yup, it looks like Wakeman played on both "Sabbra Cadabra" and "Who Are You." Neat.
Yup, it looks like Wakeman played on both "Sabbra Cadabra" and "Who Are You." Neat.
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Hey, chances are you've already seen this video, as I've seen it myself countless of times already, but in case you haven't here is a video of Black Sabbath And Rob Halford playing "Heaven And Hell" in 1992, sounds absolutely cool IMO;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8rSN4MquY&search=heaven and hell
Hey, chances are you've already seen this video, as I've seen it myself countless of times already, but in case you haven't here is a video of Black Sabbath And Rob Halford playing "Heaven And Hell" in 1992, sounds absolutely cool IMO;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8rSN4MquY&search=heaven and hell
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