Black/white Slash pickups?

[Wound_Up]

Were there any blk/wht Slash pickups? All I find is blk/creme and a guitar for sale that I'm looking at shows Slash SD pickups with silver base plates and the sig on the back as well as tape wrapped on the back like I've seen on a lot of them. The issue is the pics show them to be white, not creme.

Is it possible it's just the lighting? I messaged the seller and was told they'd check the guitar and get back with me but they never did. So are there any blk/wht SD Slash pickups? I've yet to see any so I thought I'd ask. Thanks!
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[hamerfan]

Should be possible as Custom Floor Model

 

[PFDarkside]

I’m split in shop floor custom. For example, my understanding is you can’t do Antiquities in something other than how they are made (like 4 conductor), but you can have a custom pickup with the sale winding, DunAging, etc. It wouldn’t be labeled as an Antiquity though.

What if the color is off and it’s really this? Did you ask if it’s white or cream?

 

[PFDarkside]

Actually the colors are flipped too (black should be closest to bridge). I’d be suspicious.

 

[Blille]

The slash set is zebra/ reverse zebra I believe so the configuration may be fine.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

The slash set is zebra/ reverse zebra I believe so the configuration may be fine.

I think what PFDarkside means is that Slash uses a regular zebra bridge - black bobbin towards the bridge - with a reverse zebra neck, whereas this set has a reverse zebra bridge - white bobbin towards the bridge - with a regular zebra neck.

 

[Wound_Up]

I think what PFDarkside means is that Slash uses a regular zebra bridge - black bobbin towards the bridge - with a reverse zebra neck, whereas this set has a reverse zebra bridge - white bobbin towards the bridge - with a regular zebra neck.

He has the neck pickup installed backwards. In the actual pics with more detail, you can see that the screws are installed away from the neck.

Looking at other Slash sets, that doesn't look right. The seller has screws on both white bobbins. Slash pickups have screws on one black bobbin and one white bobbin.
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These aren't Slash pickups, are they? Look at the huge, round holes in the bobbins instead of the rounded square that they're supposed to have. That's not right, either.

They're fake, aren't they? Looks like I can take that off my list. I started to make an offer around $150 less than they're asking since I believe they're counterfeit. Lol. I'd take it for 275



V's REAL Slash pickups

I’m split in shop floor custom. For example, my understanding is you can’t do Antiquities in something other than how they are made (like 4 conductor), but you can have a custom pickup with the sale winding, DunAging, etc. It wouldn’t be labeled as an Antiquity though.

What if the color is off and it’s really this? Did you ask if it’s white or cream?

I did ask if they were white or creme. The guy never got back to me with that info. He said he would look after work and never messaged me back. I believe I posted this in the first post, also.

 

[PFDarkside]

I think what PFDarkside means is that Slash uses a regular zebra bridge - black bobbin towards the bridge - with a reverse zebra neck, whereas this set has a reverse zebra bridge - white bobbin towards the bridge - with a regular zebra neck.

I think the terms are swapped, but yes.

I can’t see well enough to determine, are BOTH pickups reversed? (Studs out and screws in) That would match the set. It’s interesting because the bottoms look correct.


Wound_Up I’d call Duncan on Monday to see if they allow shop floor customs on signature pickups. That’ll be the easiest way to confirm. Even asking here, things could have changed. In the past a “lightly soldered cover”
meant double cream, now it’s not possible at all.

 

[Blille]

I think it could be custom floor but if the buddies of the buyer are making more effort to figure this out than the seller that’s usually not a good sign

https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/latest-updates/seymour-duncan-shop-floor-custom-options

Edit: the holes do look sketchy

 

[Wound_Up]

I think it could be custom floor but if the buddies of the buyer are making more effort to figure this out than the seller that’s usually not a good sign

https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/latest-updates/seymour-duncan-shop-floor-custom-options

Edit: the holes do look sketchy

Pretty sure I figured it out. He took pics of the back of real Slash pickups and combined those pics with pics of the front of these cheap pickups to make a fake set of pickups. I'd be willing to be the backing plate on those is actually blank and likely not nickel silver.

That's why there are no pics of the front of the pickups while not installed. He's using pics of the backs of real Slash's to try and say those blk/wht ones are the real deal. So when you buy the guitar and get it home, you'll pull those pickups and find no Slash sig on the back and no nickel silver baseplate.

I'm about 100% sure that this is what's going on. Not sure why I didn't think of that before now.

 

[Blille]

Pretty sure I figured it out. He took pics of the back of real Slash pickups and combined those pics with pics of the front of these cheap pickups to make a fake set of pickups. I'd be willing to be the backing plate on those is actually blank and likely not nickel silver.

That's why there are no pics of the front of the pickups while not installed. He's using pics of the backs of real Slash's to try and say those blk/wht ones are the real deal. So when you buy the guitar and get it home, you'll pull those pickups and find no Slash sig on the back and no nickel silver baseplate.

I'm about 100% sure that this is what's going on. Not sure why I didn't think of that before now.

That’s a solid theory!

The custom floor theory is out the window imho since I saw the pickup box in the listing and it’s the normal one.

 

[hamerfan]

Those white coils have no windows. They are not Duncan!

 

[PFDarkside]

Pretty sure I figured it out. He took pics of the back of real Slash pickups and combined those pics with pics of the front of these cheap pickups to make a fake set of pickups. I'd be willing to be the backing plate on those is actually blank and likely not nickel silver.

That's why there are no pics of the front of the pickups while not installed. He's using pics of the backs of real Slash's to try and say those blk/wht ones are the real deal. So when you buy the guitar and get it home, you'll pull those pickups and find no Slash sig on the back and no nickel silver baseplate.

I'm about 100% sure that this is what's going on. Not sure why I didn't think of that before now.

I hadn’t seen your response just before mine.

I think you’ve got it figured out.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Good eye, hamerfan. Definitely bogus.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

And somebody should report that seller for fraud.

 

[Wound_Up]

Ok so I've got one other theory.

The blk/wht pickups aren't the Slash pickups. They show a blurry pic of the label on the box and I swear it says 11104-8-B or whatever it is for black pickups.

Except they aren't really showing those pickups. They're just showing the blk/wht pickups mainly and the black ones are in the background in one or two pics.

Still, when you consider all the evidence, like the blurry label on the box, it still seems like a scam. I've already pissed off the seller so I'm not going to message them again and ask about the black pickups in the background. Someone else can if you'd like. I'll add a link to the sale ad.

Epiphone Les Paul Studio 2012 White - Seymour Duncan Slash Pickup Set

https://reverb.com/item/41764067-epi...ntent=41764067

This is the extent of pics of the black pickups. You'd think if they were the Slash pickups, they'd actually have pics of those and not the ones installed. Something is fishy.

 

[Wound_Up]

Final update. This will be the only double post from me. I swear.

I spoke to the seller again and asked specifically about the black Slash pickups and the part number on the packaging in the blurry pic. The ad now has been updated with newer pics and an explanation. It appears that the Slashes are installed in the guitar and are actually all black. The previous owner supposedly put a white sticker over those bobbins to make them zebra and the seller just removed it.

It makes sense. The neck pickup is still installed backwards, just like the blk/wht pickups, so it appears that he really just took the white stickers off. I guess I could look around for white bobbin stickers with the large circular cutouts and see if I can even find any similar to those. It could still be a scam but it's looking less like it.

Pretty sure I'm gonna pass on the guitar anyway so at this point it doesn't matter much. I'd want to see pics of the pickups in the packaging to make sure those aren't the Slash hb's and that they're still in the guitar if I were seriously considering it.

Anyway. I can put this to rest, now. Thanks, everyone! I appreciate it!

Edit: here's some red stickers that are exactly like the white stickers that would've been on the pickups if they actually existed. Same large holes over the holes in the actual bobbins.

 

[Masta' C]

Just popped in to say...those are Bobbin Toppers!

But Wound Up already figured it out.

 

[Kirk Dahnke]

Pretty sure the Slash set was offered in reverse zebra and regular zebra?