Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????
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El Supremo
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Cool sound. Reminds me of Unleashed's sound, the Victory album specifically.
Cool sound. Reminds me of Unleashed's sound, the Victory album specifically.
Lucy Diamond
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Holy Cr@p!!!
700th post.
I wanted it to be here.
See you around guys.
Keep your Winters Black \m/,
~LD
Holy Cr@p!!!
700th post.
I wanted it to be here.
See you around guys.
Keep your Winters Black \m/,
~LD
Despised
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Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????
So after really reading this thread in-depth, I am seeing some surprising results about these pickups. Needless to say, I am a little more intrigued about them and closer to pulling the trigger on them. However, I have only one real question about these, and how they work with Basswood. I have only seen a select few replies about using these in basswood, and would like more info on how the BW's work with this wood.
I am in a heavy debate on what to put in a guitar i just finished - a '67 Flying V 7-string - and I can't make up my mind on which set to get for this thing. It's primarily used for metal, stuff like Crowbar, Type O Negative, Slipknot, Fear Factory, Sevendust, ect. But it will also be used for classic stuff like AC/DC, Deep Purple, Toto, and other such stuff that requires more diversity. While I was initially set on a set of EMG 81-7H's, as I have been a long time active user. But I am now torn between a couple sets of Duncans for this thing instead. My choices are:
Actives:
-Fishman Fluence Modern 7 set, especially for the dual voicing and the coil split features...
-EMG 81-7H's
-Seymour Duncan Retribution 7's, Phase 1 set, despite my severe hatred of the Blackouts for how crazy hot they are...
Passives:
-S.D. Black Winter 7's
-S.D. Distortion 7's
-Lace Alumitone Deathbucker 7's
-S.D. Invader 7's
The guitar is a basswood body, bolt-on maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, 24.75" scale, T.O.M. w/ Stop tail. Tuned standard E w/ low B, and possibly down a half step in the future if I wind up with a second one...
I have seen all the rave reviews about these in a lot of mahogany bodied and necked guitars, but am looking for more insight on their results in basswood. I used to be dead set on the DiMarzio D-Activator 7's, but am tired of those already. I am looking to finally start venturing more into the Duncan realm, and am having a tough time making up my mind. Would the Black Winters be what I am really looking for? Any insight and recommendations would be helpful.
thanks all!
So after really reading this thread in-depth, I am seeing some surprising results about these pickups. Needless to say, I am a little more intrigued about them and closer to pulling the trigger on them. However, I have only one real question about these, and how they work with Basswood. I have only seen a select few replies about using these in basswood, and would like more info on how the BW's work with this wood.
I am in a heavy debate on what to put in a guitar i just finished - a '67 Flying V 7-string - and I can't make up my mind on which set to get for this thing. It's primarily used for metal, stuff like Crowbar, Type O Negative, Slipknot, Fear Factory, Sevendust, ect. But it will also be used for classic stuff like AC/DC, Deep Purple, Toto, and other such stuff that requires more diversity. While I was initially set on a set of EMG 81-7H's, as I have been a long time active user. But I am now torn between a couple sets of Duncans for this thing instead. My choices are:
Actives:
-Fishman Fluence Modern 7 set, especially for the dual voicing and the coil split features...
-EMG 81-7H's
-Seymour Duncan Retribution 7's, Phase 1 set, despite my severe hatred of the Blackouts for how crazy hot they are...
Passives:
-S.D. Black Winter 7's
-S.D. Distortion 7's
-Lace Alumitone Deathbucker 7's
-S.D. Invader 7's
The guitar is a basswood body, bolt-on maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, 24.75" scale, T.O.M. w/ Stop tail. Tuned standard E w/ low B, and possibly down a half step in the future if I wind up with a second one...
I have seen all the rave reviews about these in a lot of mahogany bodied and necked guitars, but am looking for more insight on their results in basswood. I used to be dead set on the DiMarzio D-Activator 7's, but am tired of those already. I am looking to finally start venturing more into the Duncan realm, and am having a tough time making up my mind. Would the Black Winters be what I am really looking for? Any insight and recommendations would be helpful.
thanks all!
RustInPeace
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Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????
The blackw inters may be a bit too hot for those classic tones. Have you considered the EMG 57/66 set for actives?
The blackw inters may be a bit too hot for those classic tones. Have you considered the EMG 57/66 set for actives?
Gone_Shootin
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I've managed to get AC/DC type tones out of mine.
I've managed to get AC/DC type tones out of mine.
chris effect
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black winters will surely handle the heavier stuff you're most concerned with. And out of your list of passives are the most versatile, and with a little finesse, shouldn't have a problem with the classic jams.
black winters will surely handle the heavier stuff you're most concerned with. And out of your list of passives are the most versatile, and with a little finesse, shouldn't have a problem with the classic jams.
omg81
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I'm angry. Bought a Charvel So-Cal earlier this year, which has a SD Distortion set. After installing a BW in my Jackson, I dislike the Charvel's sound. Gonna have to replace those Distortions after all I suppose.
BTW the Jackson had an EMG-81 before, and the BW turned it from plastic **** to utter everything-awesomeness. Best pickup ever.
I'm angry. Bought a Charvel So-Cal earlier this year, which has a SD Distortion set. After installing a BW in my Jackson, I dislike the Charvel's sound. Gonna have to replace those Distortions after all I suppose.
BTW the Jackson had an EMG-81 before, and the BW turned it from plastic **** to utter everything-awesomeness. Best pickup ever.
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episode666
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How far away from the strings do you keep your neck pickup?
I have a set of BW in my Gibson Les Paul Custom. The bridge pickup works flawlesly, a great and percusive metal pickup. My bandmate and myself have them in all of our guitars.
It's the neck pickup thats bugging me, everyone talks about great cleans, and accoustic-like quality. But mine is just too much output, it's never clean and too muddy sounding. And when I roll down volume, i lose treble and gets even more muddy.
I use Cts 500k pots. I've tried even removing the tone pots from the circuit.
How far away from the strings do you keep your neck pickup?
I have a set of BW in my Gibson Les Paul Custom. The bridge pickup works flawlesly, a great and percusive metal pickup. My bandmate and myself have them in all of our guitars.
It's the neck pickup thats bugging me, everyone talks about great cleans, and accoustic-like quality. But mine is just too much output, it's never clean and too muddy sounding. And when I roll down volume, i lose treble and gets even more muddy.
I use Cts 500k pots. I've tried even removing the tone pots from the circuit.
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El Supremo
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I kept the neck version just about flush with the pickup ring when installed in my Les paul Custom. Certainly high output and compressed, but not muddy by any means.
I kept the neck version just about flush with the pickup ring when installed in my Les paul Custom. Certainly high output and compressed, but not muddy by any means.
Dahla
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Mine is also flush with the pickup ring.
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Mine is also flush with the pickup ring.
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RStabler
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Can anyone tell me how these compare to the D Activator set?
I'm also interested in hearing about the neck pickup. I haven't really dug the clips I've heard so far. My problem with the D Activator set is that the neck and bridge are tonally WAY too similar. As a result, I may consider pairing a Black Winter bridge with a neck pickup that's not so intense but not too P.A.F.y either. Don't get me wrong, I love the '59 and have one paired with a distortion in another guitar, but I'm like something a little different. Some of the options I've been considering are a Full Shred neck, Jazz neck, and a Liquifire that I'm pulling out of the bridge of another guitar.
What do you guys think?
Can anyone tell me how these compare to the D Activator set?
I'm also interested in hearing about the neck pickup. I haven't really dug the clips I've heard so far. My problem with the D Activator set is that the neck and bridge are tonally WAY too similar. As a result, I may consider pairing a Black Winter bridge with a neck pickup that's not so intense but not too P.A.F.y either. Don't get me wrong, I love the '59 and have one paired with a distortion in another guitar, but I'm like something a little different. Some of the options I've been considering are a Full Shred neck, Jazz neck, and a Liquifire that I'm pulling out of the bridge of another guitar.
What do you guys think?
El Supremo
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I was thinking the same thing about my D-Activator neck. The BW neck sounds like a neck position humbucker should though Furthermore...
The D-Activators have a very particular attack to them that the BW doesn't have.
The BW is bigger soundin whereas the D-Activator is more focused.
Both are great under gain, but the BW does have the better cleans.
I was thinking the same thing about my D-Activator neck. The BW neck sounds like a neck position humbucker should though Furthermore...
The D-Activators have a very particular attack to them that the BW doesn't have.
The BW is bigger soundin whereas the D-Activator is more focused.
Both are great under gain, but the BW does have the better cleans.
Lucy Diamond
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Is the ceramic magnet what is bothering you about the neck? Because that was bothering me big time. I just never had any experience with a ceramic magnet in the neck and I didn't know what to expect.
Then came installation day.
Oh My.
The Black Winter Neck is one of the most incredible pickups I've ever experienced in 27 years of playing.
I have that guitar wired Bridge Volume - Neck Volume - Neck Tone, so I can dial back the neck and get that "woman" tone in the middle position. BRO....IT WORKS.
Is the ceramic magnet what is bothering you about the neck? Because that was bothering me big time. I just never had any experience with a ceramic magnet in the neck and I didn't know what to expect.
Then came installation day.
Oh My.
The Black Winter Neck is one of the most incredible pickups I've ever experienced in 27 years of playing.
I have that guitar wired Bridge Volume - Neck Volume - Neck Tone, so I can dial back the neck and get that "woman" tone in the middle position. BRO....IT WORKS.
omg81
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Got my BW neck today to match the bridge in my old Epi G400. Did a lot of soldering and now have 12 different pickup settings: bridge HB + split, neck HB + split is 4, that makes another 4 in middle position (parallel), and another 4 in series.
A bit too many perhaps, I'm getting lost a bit right now, but so I can try 'em all out. Playing blues all the time now instead of black or thrash metal. Both in HB mode in series gives me some surprisingly sweet, fat, warm PAF-style blues sound that crunches my clean channel nicely. The JVM's clean channel normally is pretty clean, but a total of some 33 kOhm really kicks its arse.
Traditionally, I use neck pickups rarely, and the tone knob almost never, but suddenly I'm putting it all to good use. Lovely. I thought my triple-Duncan Framus was versatile, now my 2-pup Epi pisses all over it. Almost too good to be true.
Got my BW neck today to match the bridge in my old Epi G400. Did a lot of soldering and now have 12 different pickup settings: bridge HB + split, neck HB + split is 4, that makes another 4 in middle position (parallel), and another 4 in series.
A bit too many perhaps, I'm getting lost a bit right now, but so I can try 'em all out. Playing blues all the time now instead of black or thrash metal. Both in HB mode in series gives me some surprisingly sweet, fat, warm PAF-style blues sound that crunches my clean channel nicely. The JVM's clean channel normally is pretty clean, but a total of some 33 kOhm really kicks its arse.
Traditionally, I use neck pickups rarely, and the tone knob almost never, but suddenly I'm putting it all to good use. Lovely. I thought my triple-Duncan Framus was versatile, now my 2-pup Epi pisses all over it. Almost too good to be true.
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Lucy Diamond
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They are magical.
They just KNOW what you want
I'm so glad you are happy with them.
Please stop by and let us know what you think of the individual settings. I think (thus far) you are the member here who has split them and configured them the most with your whopping 12 positions.
See you around,
~LD
They are magical.
They just KNOW what you want
I'm so glad you are happy with them.
Please stop by and let us know what you think of the individual settings. I think (thus far) you are the member here who has split them and configured them the most with your whopping 12 positions.
See you around,
~LD
omg81
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Indeed. They showed me that what I want to play most is the blues. Fantastic. And I'm still amazed that I now have a guitar that will play Slayer on a gig just as well as BB King in a smokey blues pub.
I just found a singer's mic in my old stuff, with a bit of luck I can manage to do some halfway useful recordings with that. I can go right into the PC via Line 6 or Boss thingy and stuff, but with this digital amp modelling stuff everything sounds the same. And never good.
Thinking of it, I should try my little Laney Cub-10 valve combo which I once bought as a portable blues amp. It should rock.
They just KNOW what you want
Indeed. They showed me that what I want to play most is the blues. Fantastic. And I'm still amazed that I now have a guitar that will play Slayer on a gig just as well as BB King in a smokey blues pub.
I just found a singer's mic in my old stuff, with a bit of luck I can manage to do some halfway useful recordings with that. I can go right into the PC via Line 6 or Boss thingy and stuff, but with this digital amp modelling stuff everything sounds the same. And never good.
Thinking of it, I should try my little Laney Cub-10 valve combo which I once bought as a portable blues amp. It should rock.
