Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

[orpheo]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Lucy Diamond, thanks for your reply.

I like aggression in a similar vain of george lynch, blues saraceno, megadeth or iron maiden. I play les pauls mostly but I also have some superstrats (charvel).

My fav pickups in the hotter segment are the jb, jb/fullshred hybrid and the alt8.

The invader is too fat and saggy (in the low).

The sh6 distortion is too gritty and sizzly in the top end.

The jb is too soft in the lows but I love the fluid lead tones I get from the jb in the Bridge.

From what I hear, the Black winter is even more aggressive than the sh6 and that's fine for my needs add long as it's not as fizzy...

Maybe I should just stick with my jb/fs hybrid...

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Stick with the JB/FS hybrid? No love for your Zephyrs eh?

 

[orpheo]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

The zephyrs are epic. Clear sweetness for sure (or sweet clarity??) But I don't want zephyrs in my shredstick. It doesn't feel right to put a grand worth of pickups in a 400 buck guitar (which was a steal since it's an esp customshop).

 

[Dark Order Lord]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Hi there, I wanna help you narrow down your decision making. I'm still pretty new here, so I'm not really familiar with your rig or your style yet but I have definitely seen you around.

If you aren't looking for an aggressive sound, then you definitely need to try these before you buy these because my next suggestion is going to sound insane to you if you don't actually experience them.

If you are NOT going to play anything that requires this type of aggression in the bridge position, then I would suggest you put them in a (solid body) guitar with two volume and two tone controls and use them for Jazz.

I know....I know....they are BLACK WINTERS...I get it. Trust me. You will lose your mind too when you hear the panty dropping clean qualities of these pickups.

It's completely berserk.

By the way... I just uploaded a new video of my SD Custom Shop Tyrannotitans cranked through my Marshall JCM2000 TSL100...

 

[Lucy Diamond]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

@Orpheo.

After reading your reply I think you should stick with what works for you. Maybe sometime down the road, a Black Winter might be in your future, but for now I'd much rather you be happy and dial your tone right. I would hate to find out you tried a Winter under the wrong circumstances and got turned off. One day, you will try a Winter and you will love it. Until that day...use a proven formula.

A happy guitar player just flat out plays better.

:alcoholic

 

[SGFanatic]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Cool new demo of the Black Winters by Killertonetexas.
http://youtu.be/C6TOfQZCowg

 

[Dark Order Lord]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Cool new demo of the Black Winters by Killertonetexas.
http://youtu.be/C6TOfQZCowg

Yeah sounds frakin amazing!!!! Now wanna buy again....

 

[orpheo]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

why do those guys use those unique, weird amps? Not everybody has those amps, but the recto or JCM800 is much more common.

 

[SGFanatic]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

why do those guys use those unique, weird amps? Not everybody has those amps, but the recto or JCM800 is much more common.

Actually, that amp he is using is available retail for $800, so in sense it will be more practical than a JCM800 for most people.
Besides, most modern metal amps are a variation of a JCM800 or a Mesa in one aspect or another.
I do have to agree with you. In most of those demos those guys are playing through $3k plus boutique amps that the majority of us will never own.

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

why do those guys use those unique, weird amps? Not everybody has those amps, but the recto or JCM800 is much more common.

Gibsons are more common than Warmoths, you know... So what?

To be honest with you, in terms of definition, neither a recto nor a marshall could touch this, IMO.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

why do those guys use those unique, weird amps? Not everybody has those amps, but the recto or JCM800 is much more common.

Unique? Its a standard production Randall? Can be bought new on the street for 800 bucks. Much less than you will pay for a Recto or JCM800 reissue. Sure maybe a recto or 800 are more common but only because they have been made for 20 or more years. I prefer a demo without pedals anyways and he would have needed a pedal or 2 for the 800 to get that one and probably a boost for the recto.

 

[Lucy Diamond]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Looks like I found the pickups for my Les Paul Custom

Also...about the amp...wasn't that a Randall demo??

Anyway...awesome video.

 

[orpheo]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

where? where can you get that and don't say 'guitar center' or 'sam ash' or 'sweetwater' cause we don't have those guys here, or other countries than the USA. Really guys... if you would've seen what's underneath my name it would have said: The Hague, NETHERLANDS. I live in the Netherlands and Randall is really, really hard to come by nowadays. it's a lot of marshall, fender, vox, mesa, peavey....roland cubes of course.

 

[orpheo]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Gibsons are more common than Warmoths, you know... So what?

To be honest with you, in terms of definition, neither a recto nor a marshall could touch this, IMO.

that would make totally sense if I were to make a gazillion clips with my warmoths.

but I don't.


so it makes no sense

 

[SGFanatic]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

I know, I figured that. I wasn't mocking you. I misunderstood what you said by "unique and weird", because we do have a lot of choices here. But I do know this, I have owned a bunch of middle of the road amps, including Peavey and Marshall and I always was able to get a good sound. Right now I own a Peavey 6505 and it sounds really good for metal.
I know those demos are misleading. Guys like Ola and Keith are not human. Still for the life of me I can't figure out how Ola can get every amp/guitar/speaker combination to sound EXACTLY THE SAME. Anyway, I get your point. If I'm not mistaken, the guy in the video, Jason Frankhouser is employed by Randall and Duncan, or at least he's paid to demo their products, so if he is getting $$$ to do those demos, they are going to sound top notch.

where? where can you get that and don't say 'guitar center' or 'sam ash' or 'sweetwater' cause we don't have those guys here, or other countries than the USA. Really guys... if you would've seen what's underneath my name it would have said: The Hague, NETHERLANDS. I live in the Netherlands and Randall is really, really hard to come by nowadays. it's a lot of marshall, fender, vox, mesa, peavey....roland cubes of course.

 

[dominus]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

Still for the life of me I can't figure out how Ola can get every amp/guitar/speaker combination to sound EXACTLY THE SAME.

It's in the micing/cabinet recording. I can run all sorts of different preamps through my computer through a certain cabinet IR and they all sound about the same.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

why do those guys use those unique, weird amps? Not everybody has those amps, but the recto or JCM800 is much more common.

I agree with you there. My pickup sounds better than the black winter, but that maybe because I'm playing the Marshall TSL100 .... So hmmmmmmmm :33:

 

[SGFanatic]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

It's in the micing/cabinet recording. I can run all sorts of different preamps through my computer through a certain cabinet IR and they all sound about the same.

I don't know crap about recording, I'll take your word for it.

 

[youngthrasher9]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

sounds better

These two words pretty much rule anything you say about tone invalid, to many, many people.

Just FYI.

 

[Dark Order Lord]

Re: Black Winter owner.... Feedback so far????

These two words pretty much rule anything you say about tone invalid, to many, many people.

Just FYI.

A challenge is it??? Well, then I'll just have to buy a Black Winter and do a comparison with the Tyrannotitan... or then just watch my video and compare the tone to his video and judge for yourself. But if thats your judgment on my opinion of tone between these two pickups, then so be it... its your right to have an opinion.

To me your reaction is a great demonstration of short fall of knowledge in regards to these two pickups. I'm super happy with my tone, and I have already heard a Black Winter through my amp loud next my custom shop SD, with MY OWN EARS, and I still think from that added fact the TT is better than the BW.

No where have I gone around this forum, like a lot of Alnico8 lovers, telling people in a serious manner to dump their pickup and buy my custom shop pickup, and if you can find a post of mine like that (and I bet you will), and you think it's not is jest, than thats NOT MY PROBLEM IS IT? :bigeyes: :raincloud

I really like that video from that Killertonetexas dude, and IT, not you, wants to make at least give the Black Winter a go, and like most pickups I try, its in my guitar for about 30 minutes, then I go back to what I prefer, then I sell the pickup to mate or someone online and life goes on.

To each their own in regards to tone, and my previous post was me vocalising a question whether its the pickups sounding better, or, is it THE AMPS and thats why the :33: I like Marshall TSL100 above most amps, except for a Mesa Boogie MarkIV or Mark V... and so what... I hate fizzy and fuzzy amps like EVH5150 and Engles.

My latest video was purposely done without miking up the cabinet with a sm57 to show everyone the rawest and worst version of the sound without polishing it up, cause my main issue with youtube is that you hear pickups, like the BKP ceramic PainKiller in my favourite video from a youtube user named Firejack81 and that video made my mind up to buy a PAINKILLER and thought that its was the sound I was looking for. Turns out that when I installed it, it shocked me with its stringy-ness and hollowness, I puked and put my Sh6 back in. The same senario happened with when I purchased a BKP Aftermath.

So I make the judgement based on my experience thus far, and the added evidence of those the two videos, mine and that Killertonetexas dudes, using head phones, and I still think that my TT sounds better than the BW. The ultimate test is to buy one and whack in my guitar. I'm sure that the TexasTone dude is super happy with his sound, and thats ALL that matters at the end of the day.

So dude, put your money where your mouth is.... I do. :cop: