Noisembryo
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Would Black Winters in LP be a good pickups for this style of music? Guitar is tuned to B standard / Drop A with 13 - 56 string gauge.
Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
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darthphineas
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
the Black Winter set came off to me as being a good fit for dropped tunings.
as always, other factors should include what is going on with the guitar and the amp.
the Black Winter set came off to me as being a good fit for dropped tunings.
as always, other factors should include what is going on with the guitar and the amp.
Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
Actually, they might be a little too tight sounding in the bass. I always think of the doom thing as having the fuzzy bass as part of the sound. Like the sound of taking a PAF-type and detuning and adding a lot of fuzz, and playing heavy, slow riffs.
Actually, they might be a little too tight sounding in the bass. I always think of the doom thing as having the fuzzy bass as part of the sound. Like the sound of taking a PAF-type and detuning and adding a lot of fuzz, and playing heavy, slow riffs.
Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
I don't think it's a good choice for doom. I have a set in my 7 string. Great pickups but I don't think they're for you. The output is a little low for you and the bass is plain too tight.
I know a couple of guys into the Doom genre, particularly Conan, Sleep, Electric Wizard. I can't say I like it myself, but there you go. They either tend to go for the Iommi pickup or the Duncan 59 bridge/neck combo. Hope this helps.
I don't think it's a good choice for doom. I have a set in my 7 string. Great pickups but I don't think they're for you. The output is a little low for you and the bass is plain too tight.
I know a couple of guys into the Doom genre, particularly Conan, Sleep, Electric Wizard. I can't say I like it myself, but there you go. They either tend to go for the Iommi pickup or the Duncan 59 bridge/neck combo. Hope this helps.
Myaccount876
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
A lot of that comes from using the neck pickup or middle position. Paging Lucy Diamond, does the BW neck fit the bill?
A lot of that comes from using the neck pickup or middle position. Paging Lucy Diamond, does the BW neck fit the bill?
Gibson 1964
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
My thoughts as well. They really are great, but I would imagine this would be one thing they would be a poor choice for. I would not use the BW neck for it. Slug would be a great choice though. 59s would as well.
My thoughts as well. They really are great, but I would imagine this would be one thing they would be a poor choice for. I would not use the BW neck for it. Slug would be a great choice though. 59s would as well.
Noisembryo
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
You know, I wish I could hear SLUG played through a proper DOOM amp without BASS and DRUMS (so I can actually hear the pickup, you know) with a proper downtuned slow riffing instead of Ola's usual wankery that makes any pickup sound the same. If the pickup is marketed at the DOOM crowd why is it played through that tight mid scopped Randall by the player who has nothing to do with the said genres? (Rant directed at SD).
If anyone has SLUG I'd appreciate a real demo.
You know, I wish I could hear SLUG played through a proper DOOM amp without BASS and DRUMS (so I can actually hear the pickup, you know) with a proper downtuned slow riffing instead of Ola's usual wankery that makes any pickup sound the same. If the pickup is marketed at the DOOM crowd why is it played through that tight mid scopped Randall by the player who has nothing to do with the said genres? (Rant directed at SD).
If anyone has SLUG I'd appreciate a real demo.
Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
The idea behind the SLUG was to make a pickup that gives you the Doom sound, without the need for the Doom related amps.
This is a quote from "Designing The Slug".
Personally it feels a bit gimmicky, designing a pickup that tries to sound like an entire Doom guitar rig. Regardless of how well the pickup may sound, I am not a fan of the philosophy behind it.
But hearing how it sounds through an actual Doom rig would be quite interesting.
The idea behind the SLUG was to make a pickup that gives you the Doom sound, without the need for the Doom related amps.
This is a quote from "Designing The Slug".
Personally it feels a bit gimmicky, designing a pickup that tries to sound like an entire Doom guitar rig. Regardless of how well the pickup may sound, I am not a fan of the philosophy behind it.
But hearing how it sounds through an actual Doom rig would be quite interesting.
Noisembryo
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
Doom sound is not created by pickups, it's created by downtuned guitars through loud single channel amps and fuzz pedals...I really don't see how a pickup can give you "insta-doom-sound". Videos of SLUG I heard sound nothing like doom to me...
Doom sound is not created by pickups, it's created by downtuned guitars through loud single channel amps and fuzz pedals...I really don't see how a pickup can give you "insta-doom-sound". Videos of SLUG I heard sound nothing like doom to me...
some_dude
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Re: Black Winters for Drone/Doom/Stoner?
I feel as though people are pigeonholing the sound a little bit.
Matt Pike (Sleep, High on Fire) used Duncan Distortions. A lot of people focus on his Laney, but they forget he had a Soldano preamp.
Kirk Windstad (Crowbar, Down) used EMG 81 & 85. Boss MT-2.
Steven O'Malley (Sunn O)))) uses a Travis Bean, which is said to have come stock with some sort of overwound A5 magnet. Not sure what's in his Les Paul.
Jus Oborn (Electric Wizard) used to just buy Epiphone SGs and used whatever pickups happened to come in them (stock or not, but I'm pretty sure most weren't PAFs). Boss FZ-2. The guy used to use whatever was available, both in the studio and live... and has been seen with everything from old Sound Cities to Rectifiers.
Wata (Boris), no idea what she uses, but there's no covers on her pickups, which suggests they may be aftermarket. Considering she's a Melvins fan she may be running JBs... or something else entirely. DS-1 and Big Muff.
Buzz Osborn (Melvins) - Stock pickups (probably PAF) and Duncan JBs. Boss overdrive and distortion pedals.
Josh Homme (Kyuss, QOTSA) - Duncan Custom Custom, 59b.
Pepper Keenan (Corrosion of Conformity, Down) - Duncan Invaders
Hard to find info on old school bands. Wouldn't be surprised to learn there was a lot of 498T, 500T, Distortions, Customs and Super Distortions used back in the day.
I feel as though people are pigeonholing the sound a little bit.
Matt Pike (Sleep, High on Fire) used Duncan Distortions. A lot of people focus on his Laney, but they forget he had a Soldano preamp.
Kirk Windstad (Crowbar, Down) used EMG 81 & 85. Boss MT-2.
Steven O'Malley (Sunn O)))) uses a Travis Bean, which is said to have come stock with some sort of overwound A5 magnet. Not sure what's in his Les Paul.
Jus Oborn (Electric Wizard) used to just buy Epiphone SGs and used whatever pickups happened to come in them (stock or not, but I'm pretty sure most weren't PAFs). Boss FZ-2. The guy used to use whatever was available, both in the studio and live... and has been seen with everything from old Sound Cities to Rectifiers.
Wata (Boris), no idea what she uses, but there's no covers on her pickups, which suggests they may be aftermarket. Considering she's a Melvins fan she may be running JBs... or something else entirely. DS-1 and Big Muff.
Buzz Osborn (Melvins) - Stock pickups (probably PAF) and Duncan JBs. Boss overdrive and distortion pedals.
Josh Homme (Kyuss, QOTSA) - Duncan Custom Custom, 59b.
Pepper Keenan (Corrosion of Conformity, Down) - Duncan Invaders
Hard to find info on old school bands. Wouldn't be surprised to learn there was a lot of 498T, 500T, Distortions, Customs and Super Distortions used back in the day.
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