Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

I had the Uberschall pedal, it was weak.

That seems to be the consensus. It seemed to me like the Red had noticeably more gain than the Uber, which is pretty odd.

 

[JeffB]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

I have no use for the Uberschall, so no clue. All I know is the Blue is uncanny.

Ken- I have not messed with the boost much, I am running my gain around 2 oclock in Plexi mode, variac on, B1 on the pre, and I think 20th anni on the structure...gets me into a classic April Wine kinda territory

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

Man, I'm so glad you found that pedal. Several months ago, I lucked into the whole batch....all 3.

I'm always hesitant to sound too much like a Bogner representative, because you guys probably expect it.

But....those pedals are some of the best gain makers you can buy. The blue is like buying a Bogner XTC blue channel and adding it to your amp. The Red is like turning any amp into any shade of highgain you want. The Uberschall is well......imagine all those 3 thousand dollar metal amps. There it is in a pedal!

I'd say that it's best to use them with a slightly pushed tube clean tone. Then, the pedal is like your new channel.

Reinhold Bogner is going to go down as the mad scientist of guitar amplification history. They broke the mold when he was born.

Reinhold said to tell you your endorsement check is in the mail... hahahaha

Yes, the guy has all the makings of genius. amazing work and eccentric too. Id LOVE to and will have one of these pedals eventually. The hard part will be deciding what one to get. Im pretty much decided on the red tho..

Glad you are digging yours Jeff!

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

Jeff, I put EL34s in my tweaker 15. Jury's still out. It sounds good, but IMO it has lost alot of the tonal variety that it used to have.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

To me, they sound best on a slightly pushed clean Marshall platform.

There's a lot to like about the blue pedal. You can pretty much dial in your ideal rock tone. At first, I thought the variac switch wouldn't be useful, but when it's on, and you turn the volume higher, it's got a nice feel under the fingers. The only negative I can find on the blue pedal is that the boost should be calibrated lower in output, so it's independent volume and gain is more tweakable. As it is, I have both those mini knobs set to zero, and the boost seems right at that setting. If Bogner fixed this little issue, the pedal would be a 10 outta 10.

The Red pedal is one of the best distortion pedals I've ever tried. It's boost function is better because there's not the big volume jump that the blue pedal suffers from. The Red is chock full of tone and gain. It's almost hard to believe that a pedal can sound so much like a highgain amp. There's none of that ratty buzz that you get out of most OD/Dist pedals.

The Uberschall is the least versatile of the 3, but it does what it's supposed to do......sound like an Uberschall head.
I don't consider it 'my sound' but it's a good tool to have access to. If I want a huge crushing metal tone, all I have to do is plop that pedal down in front of any fat sounding tube amp. It's a little drier than the Red. The Red has more of a Satriani vibe, while the Uber is more like Dime's amp rig.

 

[ken361]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

He has new pedals coming out very soon, low and high gain pedals fuzzy type one and a clean boost. There on youtube

 

[JeffB]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

My stupid Tubemeister fried a JJ EL84 today (or vice-versa) and **** the bed. Eliminated everything but the anode fuse inside the chassis, which HK says is a job for a qualified tech, of which I am not...


So no clips likely soon...though after some trial and error I have it sounding quite good with the Class5, though the speaker is just not getting pushed enough to add it's mojo

 

[dominus]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

He has new pedals coming out very soon, low and high gain pedals fuzzy type one and a clean boost. There on youtube

 

[BloodRose]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

Those pedals look like they should have Daisy Rock on them. Pretty

 

[Adieu]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

So...how much could you hope to get one for used??

 

[LatsMcGee]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

I had the Uberschall pedal, it was weak.

Really? I've had the chance several times to put one through the paces with an Alchemist head at a local shop and was very pleased, they had it set up with a solid state amp initially and it sounded like ****, I think you have to be careful what amps you use with these pedals....

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

They'll probably always hang around $200 on the used market. If they discontinued them for some reason, the price would shoot up. I figure Bogner will be selling these for quite awhile.

They're not cheap, but at least they deliver. The Blue and Red are really great pedals. There's so much tweakability in each one, and they literally transform your amp into quality Bogner/Marshall tones. It's a big bonus that they look so beautiful as well.

 

[Adieu]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

They'll probably always hang around $200 on the used market. If they discontinued them for some reason, the price would shoot up. I figure Bogner will be selling these for quite awhile.

They're not cheap, but at least they deliver. The Blue and Red are really great pedals. There's so much tweakability in each one, and they literally transform your amp into quality Bogner/Marshall tones. It's a big bonus that they look so beautiful as well.

The question is, with used Bugeras and Laneys for going for 300 tops on the worst of days & nailing those Peavey & Marshall tones respectively, and old Carvins providing their own take for a similar price, is there really a point??

If I want a different flavour higain monster on a $250 budget, I think I'm more likely to hunt down a 50w Laney head, or maybe a Carvin x100b / x60-whatsitsname, you know?

...now if it were 150, that would be a whole nother story though!!

 

[Gone_Shootin]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

The question is, with used Bugeras and Laneys for going for 300 tops on the worst of days & nailing those Peavey & Marshall tones respectively, and old Carvins providing their own take for a similar price, is there really a point??

If I want a different flavour higain monster on a $250 budget, I think I'm more likely to hunt down a 50w Laney head, or maybe a Carvin x100b / x60-whatsitsname, you know?

...now if it were 150, that would be a whole nother story though!!

Because some of us don't want junk.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

The question is, with used Bugeras and Laneys for going for 300 tops on the worst of days & nailing those Peavey & Marshall tones respectively, and old Carvins providing their own take for a similar price, is there really a point??

If I want a different flavour higain monster on a $250 budget, I think I'm more likely to hunt down a 50w Laney head, or maybe a Carvin x100b / x60-whatsitsname, you know?

...now if it were 150, that would be a whole nother story though!!

I can't speak for anyone, but the appeal is having such a different tone footswitchable without taking up space or having to worry about additional maintenance.

I used to be of the mindset that nothing would beat a dedicated overdriven amp, but the pedal competition is so fierce these days that it's becoming easier than ever to get by with a single channel amp and use a couple of pedals for bliss. Heck, I downsized from a Bogner Shiva half stack to a Fender Super Reverb with a Fairfield Barbershop OD and I'm liking my tone now better than ever. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new Bogner pedals are like and hopefully they'll be built with more pride than my experiences with the XTC Blue pedal I had.

 

[dominus]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

The question is, with used Bugeras and Laneys for going for 300 tops on the worst of days & nailing those Peavey & Marshall tones respectively, and old Carvins providing their own take for a similar price, is there really a point??

If I want a different flavour higain monster on a $250 budget, I think I'm more likely to hunt down a 50w Laney head, or maybe a Carvin x100b / x60-whatsitsname, you know?

I had the same theory with my wall of solid state amps. I found lots of great sounds, BUT, they take up lots of space and use a LOT more electricity than a pedal. *If* I had any electronics skills, I would have figured out how to remove the power amp from them and convert them into preamps that used less electricity.

...now if it were 150, that would be a whole nother story though!!

I paid $150 for the Uberschall pedal used. I also paid $150 for the Okko Dominator pedal - THAT'S HIGH GAIN.

You can also get the AMT Legend 1 pedals for about $100 used, those had plenty more gain than the Uberschall pedal as well.

 

[ken361]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

I was a amp OD guy also until I switched to the Bogners, the red and my Wolfgang kick butt for sure, sounds just like a XTC or a 5150III but I think the red channel 5150 is a bit more saturated maybe its been a while since i played one. These pedals do take some time to figure out some times and having the right amp also helps.

 

[dominus]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

Really? I've had the chance several times to put one through the paces with an Alchemist head at a local shop and was very pleased, they had it set up with a solid state amp initially and it sounded like ****, I think you have to be careful what amps you use with these pedals....

I used it as a preamp into my recording setup, same thing I do with *every* pedal. It didn't sound bad, just weak. Not enough gain, even when pushed with an overdrive in front of it.

Granted, I've also had experience with the ISP Theta pedal and Okko Dominator, those make everything sound weak. The AMT pedals had more gain as well.

 

[ken361]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

I can't speak for anyone, but the appeal is having such a different tone footswitchable without taking up space or having to worry about additional maintenance.

I used to be of the mindset that nothing would beat a dedicated overdriven amp, but the pedal competition is so fierce these days that it's becoming easier than ever to get by with a single channel amp and use a couple of pedals for bliss. Heck, I downsized from a Bogner Shiva half stack to a Fender Super Reverb with a Fairfield Barbershop OD and I'm liking my tone now better than ever. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new Bogner pedals are like and hopefully they'll be built with more pride than my experiences with the XTC Blue pedal I had.

what was wrong with your blue?

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Bogner Ecstacy Blue Pedal

what was wrong with your blue?

Footswitch problems (the switching on and off of the pedal wasn't always consistent). I won't go into more detail than that because I think I beat that dead horse on here over it.