Boogie Bill
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Has anyone used these? Would like to hear some thoughts, especially with the gain pushed a little bit. Do they sound like a pushed BF or Tweed Fender amp?
TIA...
Bill
TIA...
Bill
Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
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vegetablejoe
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
I have the Boss DR pedal. While I was trying it out at the local store, I was only plugged into a Fender FM 112. It sounded indistinguishable at low gain. Have not had the chance to a/b vs a real DR or PR though...
I have the Boss DR pedal. While I was trying it out at the local store, I was only plugged into a Fender FM 112. It sounded indistinguishable at low gain. Have not had the chance to a/b vs a real DR or PR though...
PFDarkside
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
Are you looking for the tone stack structure or the reverb and tremolo emulation? If the former, I'd look at the Black '65 and Tweed '57 from Wampler. All analog rather than COSM modeling.
Are you looking for the tone stack structure or the reverb and tremolo emulation? If the former, I'd look at the Black '65 and Tweed '57 from Wampler. All analog rather than COSM modeling.
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
I have the Boss Bassman pedal. I'll say that it reminds me of a Bassman, and of other Bassman models I've tried. It might be fun/useful for somebody who's looking to bring some of that flavor into their rig, like I was.
I have the Boss Bassman pedal. I'll say that it reminds me of a Bassman, and of other Bassman models I've tried. It might be fun/useful for somebody who's looking to bring some of that flavor into their rig, like I was.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
These kind of cosm pedals never made any sense to me.
If you want the sound of a deluxe reverb (or bassman), that's all good.
But how the hell do you get that sound when you are running the "deluxe reverb" sound through some other amp?
They might be good if they had xlr outputs and were used for direct recording, but there is already plenty of good software (ie amplitube) that can do that with less gear and more flexibility.
No pedal can turn one amp into another despite a nice looking corporate logo and vintage fonts. Not even the best boutique analog pedals can do that (the les lius etc etc). Yep, I've tried a ton of them through plenty of nice tube amps. Mostly through a twin which is really the gold standard for a "blank slate" clean tone. This whole thing is a myth designed to sell pedals to people chasing the holy grail in a pedal package.
Having said all that, I'm keen to try the boss/fender '63 reverb pedal (mainly cos all it does is emulate an outboard reverb tank).
To bill...it is really going to come down to the amp you are currently using, and then choosing the right pedal (overdrive/tone shaper etc) to give it more or less of certain characteristics to push it towards the kind of sound you are after. You'll never get your amp to sound like another amp, but you can of course get some killer sounds if you work with it.
What amp are you using and what would you change about the tone? There might be some great options out there.
These kind of cosm pedals never made any sense to me.
If you want the sound of a deluxe reverb (or bassman), that's all good.
But how the hell do you get that sound when you are running the "deluxe reverb" sound through some other amp?
They might be good if they had xlr outputs and were used for direct recording, but there is already plenty of good software (ie amplitube) that can do that with less gear and more flexibility.
No pedal can turn one amp into another despite a nice looking corporate logo and vintage fonts. Not even the best boutique analog pedals can do that (the les lius etc etc). Yep, I've tried a ton of them through plenty of nice tube amps. Mostly through a twin which is really the gold standard for a "blank slate" clean tone. This whole thing is a myth designed to sell pedals to people chasing the holy grail in a pedal package.
Having said all that, I'm keen to try the boss/fender '63 reverb pedal (mainly cos all it does is emulate an outboard reverb tank).
To bill...it is really going to come down to the amp you are currently using, and then choosing the right pedal (overdrive/tone shaper etc) to give it more or less of certain characteristics to push it towards the kind of sound you are after. You'll never get your amp to sound like another amp, but you can of course get some killer sounds if you work with it.
What amp are you using and what would you change about the tone? There might be some great options out there.
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
The Boss/Fender '63 reverb pedal is pretty darn good.
The Boss/Fender '63 reverb pedal is pretty darn good.
Boogie Bill
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
Well, I'm using a variety of Mesa Boogies.
Actually this inquiry was generated by a particular setting on my Mark V combo. I love the CLEAN channel and use the FAT mode for my basic clean tone. (Of course I use the other channels too.) But switching to the TWEED mode...well that's my favorite crunch tone. It's instant ZZ Top with a Les Paul. I can't seem to get the CRUNCH channel to sound exactly like that, even with the EQ, but it does make some delicious sounds. I've tried a couple of pedals, like the Wampler Tweed, but haven't found what I'm looking for yet.
I know the Reverend used Tweeds in the studio, and Marshalls on stage in the early days, so maybe a Marshall-in-a-box pedal would be better. But I thought the Boss pedals might get me closer. Tech 21, Radial Tonebone, Wampler and Carl Martin all do some decent MIAB tones.
Bill
Well, I'm using a variety of Mesa Boogies.
Actually this inquiry was generated by a particular setting on my Mark V combo. I love the CLEAN channel and use the FAT mode for my basic clean tone. (Of course I use the other channels too.) But switching to the TWEED mode...well that's my favorite crunch tone. It's instant ZZ Top with a Les Paul. I can't seem to get the CRUNCH channel to sound exactly like that, even with the EQ, but it does make some delicious sounds. I've tried a couple of pedals, like the Wampler Tweed, but haven't found what I'm looking for yet.
I know the Reverend used Tweeds in the studio, and Marshalls on stage in the early days, so maybe a Marshall-in-a-box pedal would be better. But I thought the Boss pedals might get me closer. Tech 21, Radial Tonebone, Wampler and Carl Martin all do some decent MIAB tones.
Bill
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
using pedals for crunch with a multi channel mesa is pretty redundant. Especially digital ones. Think of all the time and effort that goes into designing and building that all tube goodness that boogers can do. Seems a terrible shame to squeeze your precious guitar signal through some AD/DA converters before it gets there.
..but the rev knows a thing or two about guitar...
Maybe it is time to have a look at a 5e3...
...my 2c on amps...none of em can do everything. Some can do one thing really great, and some can do a few things really great, but none of em can do everything. That's ok tho. Embrace the sounds you like best and squeeze every bit of life out of them. Sometimes limitations can free us up to concentrate on the notes, the vibe, the playing, the feel more. Lets face it...we only have one human voice, and there is plenty of expression in that particular instrument.
using pedals for crunch with a multi channel mesa is pretty redundant. Especially digital ones. Think of all the time and effort that goes into designing and building that all tube goodness that boogers can do. Seems a terrible shame to squeeze your precious guitar signal through some AD/DA converters before it gets there.
..but the rev knows a thing or two about guitar...
Maybe it is time to have a look at a 5e3...
...my 2c on amps...none of em can do everything. Some can do one thing really great, and some can do a few things really great, but none of em can do everything. That's ok tho. Embrace the sounds you like best and squeeze every bit of life out of them. Sometimes limitations can free us up to concentrate on the notes, the vibe, the playing, the feel more. Lets face it...we only have one human voice, and there is plenty of expression in that particular instrument.
PFDarkside
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
Based on what you are looking for.... I know your name is "BoogieBill", but I agree that a new 5E3 build from a good builder is the thing that will tick the box for you.
(I think I need one too...)
Based on what you are looking for.... I know your name is "BoogieBill", but I agree that a new 5E3 build from a good builder is the thing that will tick the box for you.
(I think I need one too...
)
Inkstained
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
I agree with this. My Boss BM pedal is fun for "tweeding up" a Blues Jr., but no one would mistake it for the real thing.
I agree with this. My Boss BM pedal is fun for "tweeding up" a Blues Jr., but no one would mistake it for the real thing.
Matt42
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Re: Boss Deluxe Reverb and Bassman Pedals
The Bassman pedal is OK, but not amazing. I've never played the Deluxe pedal.
The Reverb pedal is the best of the three, but even that falls short of the original concept. I might be biased having played an actual Fender reverb tank from the 60's quite a bit though. The FRV-1 just didn't have the same sound, it sounded like a poor facsimile. If I ever feel the need to buy a reverb pedal, I'd go with a Strymon Flint or a HoF over the FRV-1.
The Bassman pedal is OK, but not amazing. I've never played the Deluxe pedal.
The Reverb pedal is the best of the three, but even that falls short of the original concept. I might be biased having played an actual Fender reverb tank from the 60's quite a bit though. The FRV-1 just didn't have the same sound, it sounded like a poor facsimile. If I ever feel the need to buy a reverb pedal, I'd go with a Strymon Flint or a HoF over the FRV-1.
