BOSS ME-50 or?

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What is a good FX unit to run in the loop, must be able to go on the floor.

I've looked at the ME-50 and for the most part it appears to do what I need but any other suggestions or reasons to stay the hell away from it for some reason.

I love mine! I run the FS-6 footswitch extension, and I can go up and down in memory bank, or switch out to manual and use my effects separately. My ME-50 is the cornerstone of my sound, along with my '72 twin reverb. I'd recommend the ME-50 over everything else.
 
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I didn't like the ME50 mainly because when you switch patches there's a signal cut for about a quarter of a second... the unit just stops passing signal while it switches over. That was back in '04 or so, though. Anyone know if Boss has since fixed this?

When switching between two very complex memory banks, yes. It doesn't apply in manual mode, however, and even then, I tend to stay in an effect during a song anyways. It's mainly due to extremely complex memory mode switches (i.e. both patches have a lot of effects in them) and only having one COSM processor in it. But like I said, there are ways around it.

The ME-50 isn't designed to be ran in the effects loop- it is a front end device. It doesn't lend itself well to effects loops.

I've done it before and never really had any problems. Just run input then output from amp left (mono) and adjust main volume. However, for memory locations, it might suck due to saving the master volume in each patch (and they're all set at 50% from the factory), so you might be in for a lot of patch editing. It's much easier, true, to run in front of the amp.

I tried one recently and didnt care for it much. Average effects ,lousy OD's. It is a good concept and does do it all but I just wasnt impressed.

Well all the distortions start sounding the same to me after say 10 of them, but I like using them in manual mode. There are the ones for actually simulating a pedal (which it seems to do very well) and then ones for the abstract among us, like "Lead" and "Loud" and "Natural", etc. Still, I'm not a distortion monger, so I might not be as in tune with differences between settings.

If it did not have the delay between patches, I would really like it.

I've yet to have that delay actually affect me.

I really don't want amp models fwiw.

ME-50 is a good choice for a multiFX without amp modelling, which is why I got it. I hate amp modelling with a passion, and prefer to hear my Twin Reverb's natural coloring.

. . . i don't think an multi was made to run in the loop ! All the old folk around here who has either the ME-50 or GT6/8's run it into the fron of their amps !

I've ran it in an effects loop before, you just have to adjust your levels.

If the latency between patches didn't screw the pooch hard enough, here's another un-lubed slam.... There are no pedals for bank up/down.... they're freaking BUTTONS on the top. You can set it up with pedals, but you have to buy additional expression pedals. Also, the AC adapter must be purchased separately. I'd recommend a Boss GT, and just turn off the amp modeling.

And have to edit like 100 or so memory modes? That's no fun. For what it's worth, buy a FS-6 and a stereo TRS 3' cable and you've got memory bank up/down capability. The AC adapter, yes, must be purchased separately, but it's not expensive. I had one go out on me (one year of abuse) and I just bought another and kept rollin'.

The only thing better than an ME-50, however, would be if Boss made a totally analog (yet digitally controlled) multi-FX.
 
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Ahh I'll just stay with what I am doing now

GTR - - - - - - - >AMP

Thanks guys but way too much hassle for a the few things I need FX for.

Exactly how I felt after playing with it for a few weeks. A couple pedals and I'm ready.
 
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I recently started using rack mount mulit-effects in tandem with a midi controlled channel switcher. That way one stomp will get me the right effects and the right amp channel. I am currently using a Rocktron Intellifex ltd, but it is a loaner and I will be switching to a newer unit eventually. Possible the xpression. I had looked at the ME-50, and my research indicated that it would not work well in the loop in addition to all the distortions I would never use. I had tried using my PODXT as an effects only unit, but it colored my amps tone in a negative way. The ME-50 does have one thing that I have been unable to find in any affordable rack mount, which is an intelligent pitch shifting feature.


I think one or two well-chosen pedals would be your best bet. All you have to do is stomp on 'em! :D

Having said that, there is a lot to be said for guitar, cord, amp!
 
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What is a good FX unit to run in the loop, must be able to go on the floor.

I've looked at the ME-50 and for the most part it appears to do what I need but any other suggestions or reasons to stay the hell away from it for some reason.



HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND ?

I forgot all about the G-System :smokin:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/G-System

THIS MUST BE THE "END-ALL" TO MULTI'S !!!

I am NOT a multi fan (like i said in a prevvious post - i will ONLY get the Carl Martin QUATRRO), BUT, i'll be the first to admit, this unit loos highly professional, and will out-gun any GT-8/Digitech/pod or any other multi on the market !

;)
 
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Wow that is pretty cool. Watched the vids and it is likely overkill but I like the seemless switching for sure.

HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND ?

I forgot all about the G-System :smokin:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/G-System

THIS MUST BE THE "END-ALL" TO MULTI'S !!!

I am NOT a multi fan (like i said in a prevvious post - i will ONLY get the Carl Martin QUATRRO), BUT, i'll be the first to admit, this unit loos highly professional, and will out-gun any GT-8/Digitech/pod or any other multi on the market !

;)
 
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If the latency between patches didn't screw the pooch hard enough, here's another un-lubed slam....

There are no pedals for bank up/down.... they're freaking BUTTONS on the top. You can set it up with pedals, but you have to buy additional expression pedals.

Also, the AC adapter must be purchased separately.

I'd recommend a Boss GT, and just turn off the amp modeling.

I'm not trying to defend the ME-50, but,I use it , and I like it.
Mine came with the ac adapter, it was in the box, with the unit- all of them do, maybe you got ripped off.
I also bought a simple 2 button switch for going up/down of the banks, and it doubles as the tone/compressor on off.
It's not a bad unit- it does what it's supposed to do, but it's not for everyone. Personally, I can't imagine going back to that mess of pedals, wires, cables, and cases of batteries, that I had before.
 
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I just bought mine recently, and it had everything it was supose to have. Also, I dont know if i'm the only one, but mine doesnt cut when i switch anything.

Phil
 
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I did not buy an ME50. When they first came out, I tried one out at Guitar Center. At the time, it did not include the adapter.

TwinReverb said:
And have to edit like 100 or so memory modes? That's no fun.
So you just roll with the factory presets? Let's say that you do.... you would only have to shut off the modeling on the patches you actually use.

For what it's worth, buy a FS-6 and a stereo TRS 3' cable and you've got memory bank up/down capability.
You should NOT have to pay extra for something that's a standard feature on EVERY other floor-based processor ever made. Look at the cheapest, most stripped down processors that have only two foot switches, and tell me what they are.

I love Boss, have owned, used, and loved tons of their stuff and will no doubt buy more, but no built in band up/down is idiotic bull****.
 
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For all it's stated faults- just look at the price of the thing- for 299 you expect every option to be included?
BTW for what it's worth- the thing records very nicely though the line out/headphone output.
 
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So you just roll with the factory presets? Let's say that you do.... you would only have to shut off the modeling on the patches you actually use.

You should NOT have to pay extra for something that's a standard feature on EVERY other floor-based processor ever made. Look at the cheapest, most stripped down processors that have only two foot switches, and tell me what they are.

I love Boss, have owned, used, and loved tons of their stuff and will no doubt buy more, but no built in band up/down is idiotic bull****.

First, yes, I usually roll with the factory presets, with maybe a slight mod (like noise suppression to 50%, that's about it). Fourty memory locations is easier to modify than a hundred, all things considered equal.

As for memory up/down, the ME-50 is in the small MultiFX category, not the same category as the GT-8, etc. It's also meant to be more of a manual-knob pedal. When compared to other three-stomp multiFX, it's much better. Want the up/down included? EIther get a FS-6 for the ME-50 (ebay works wonders) or else get a GT-8 or POD or something that includes it.

The ME-50 happens to fit exactly what I needed, and still does. Even if I bought a GT-8 or GT-PRO, I'd have to edit out amp modelling because I can't tolerate it, so I'd still be in the same boat. My needs are not the needs of everyone. Case in point, the guy I was in the band with in Korea bought a GT-8, and that filled his needs as well. I didn't envy because my needs were already filled, etc. Different strokes for different folks. I just don't like it when people bash a pedal based on their needs rather than logic. Not what you like isn't the same as being a piece of krap, etc. I despise amp modelling, but that don't mean it's wrong for everyone else as well, etc.
 
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FWIW my ME-50 did NOT include the power adapter either which I thought was crap. The thing is useless without it. Although I did't know if that's how Boss intended it or if that's how the local music stores get to screw you on price.

And for the lack of bank up/down pedals, it's really not a problem. The whole point of the ME-50 is simplicity. Every effect is so incredibly easy to engage/disengage in real-time with a flick of a knob. No navigating through digital menus. Just dial-in the effect you want with a turn of the knob. This unit invites and encourages you to tweak and experiement with it as you're playing whereas units like the GT-8 require you spend hours with it beforehand and preprogram everything. Think of the ME-50 as the sonic equivalnet of one of those Radio Shack electronic experiment kits. It's supposed to be fun to play with and encourages experimentation.
 
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I completely agree! That is totally why I love this board. You just plug and play! Messing with the nobs on this thing has given me really cool sounds I didn't know my guitar had, and it was motivating to check them all out, since they are right there. Half the people I know with digi boards dont even know half of what their effects sound like. It's 2 bad you guys think you got screwed because of the adapter thing. As far as I am concerned, I think this is the pedal for me. I have had no problems with it, no cuts in signal or anything...but maybe that is just me.

The only downside about this pedal IMO, is that the wah is weak....very weak. Everything else I cannot complain about, exept the fact that I'm going to have to buy a new wah.

Phil
 
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FWIW my ME-50 did NOT include the power adapter either which I thought was crap. The thing is useless without it. Although I did't know if that's how Boss intended it or if that's how the local music stores get to screw you on price.

And for the lack of bank up/down pedals, it's really not a problem. The whole point of the ME-50 is simplicity. Every effect is so incredibly easy to engage/disengage in real-time with a flick of a knob. No navigating through digital menus. Just dial-in the effect you want with a turn of the knob. This unit invites and encourages you to tweak and experiement with it as you're playing whereas units like the GT-8 require you spend hours with it beforehand and preprogram everything. Think of the ME-50 as the sonic equivalnet of one of those Radio Shack electronic experiment kits. It's supposed to be fun to play with and encourages experimentation.

First, it's not useless without it, and that's not how Boss intended it. It can give you 12 hours life on 6 AA batteries, and in fact, sometimes I prefer to use it that way if a cable starts intercepting power supply hum. Stop shooting your mouth off, and stop spreading F.U.D.

Second, whatever, I prefer to have bank up/down now that I have it, but only because the presets (to me) are useful. I would actually prefer to set up entire sets of music (if possible, using computer) as a patch per song. I have the 10 most useful ones memorized. I do agree with your positive points, but the whole battery thing just bothers me. In fact, for a while I was running it totally from battery because I ran out of power plugs on the platform :D
 
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First, it's not useless without it, and that's not how Boss intended it. It can give you 12 hours life on 6 AA batteries, and in fact, sometimes I prefer to use it that way if a cable starts intercepting power supply hum. Stop shooting your mouth off, and stop spreading F.U.D.

Second, whatever, I prefer to have bank up/down now that I have it, but only because the presets (to me) are useful. I would actually prefer to set up entire sets of music (if possible, using computer) as a patch per song. I have the 10 most useful ones memorized. I do agree with your positive points, but the whole battery thing just bothers me. In fact, for a while I was running it totally from battery because I ran out of power plugs on the platform :D

That is one battery eatin' bad boy....I would have to have a power supply with the cost of batteries so high.
 
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Stop shooting your mouth off, and stop spreading F.U.D.

Dude, chill. I'm merely sharing my experiences with the unit. And while I didn't read all of the above posts, I thought we were both in the "I like the ME-50" camp. Don't be so defensive. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
 
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Dude, chill. I'm merely sharing my experiences with the unit. And while I didn't read all of the above posts, I thought we were both in the "I like the ME-50" camp. Don't be so defensive. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

Sorry, maybe I got a bit defensive.... I just felt like the comment was a bit f****d up....
 
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