Boss SD1
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Rex_Rocker
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You mean SD-1 Super Overdrive? If so, not even close at all.
devastone
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Very different pedals, the Martin and Wampler pedals are amp in a box Marshall style pedals designed to get the sound of those amps into a clean amp, the SD-1 is more for pushing an amp without changing the basic personality of the amp. It would work great stacked in front of the Martin and Wampler pedals.
El Dunco
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Is it true that the ZW-44 is based on the SD-1 (now known as the Berzerker?) There was a rumour that every unit had a switch under the chassis that could turn it into a GT-OD and that every GT and ZW was the same and just depended on where the switch was set at factory. Wasn’t the case with my ZW-44 as there’s nothing where the switch is supposed to be.
However, it was the basis for my custom, hand-built overdrive with the switch to go between GT and ZW includee; completely different components with different values, a symmetrical, asymmetrical and diode bypass switch and an LPB-1 booster built right in to go from fat lead boost to “ripped speaker” aggression.
However, it was the basis for my custom, hand-built overdrive with the switch to go between GT and ZW includee; completely different components with different values, a symmetrical, asymmetrical and diode bypass switch and an LPB-1 booster built right in to go from fat lead boost to “ripped speaker” aggression.
El Dunco
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So I heard. I’m wondering how much carried over to the ZW. Obviously the asymmetrical clipping did.
Aceman
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Those other pedals are "Marshall in a box" type pedals.
The SD1 is used to boost an under driven amp into hot rod Marshall territory. Those pedals don't need that. But you could....the SD1 can be used before a pedal too.
Analog tape is absolutely better tone IMO. I wish more studios/atrist would go back to it.
El Dunco
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At the risk of sounding elitist, I don’t think you can really call yourself a sound producer if you don’t know your way around tape. We had to show we could not only record and mix a song on 2” tape, we had to set it up, including the patchbays and loading the tape from scratch to pass the first trimester at SP school.
Digital is the clearest, more accurate medium, capturing well in excess of the human hearing range. Tape is an imperfect recording medium, which does make it desirable for some sounds, particularly distorted guitars.
I have a hybrid set up, it’s 1/4” tape because 24 track goes for as much as a new car, but I use it for guitar tracks on some songs for the low-mid warmth, sweetness in the treble that can be less fatiguing than digital and of course tape saturation in a way “tape emulation plugins” can’t do.
That being said with the smaller dynamic range and higher s/n, I’d rather not go back to full analog, though it would break some musicians out of the idea that they don’t have to play well enough because I can “fix it in pooost.” Editing no longer being at a premium is one of the worst things to have happened to recorded music.
Rex_Rocker
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Yes, the Wylde OD is REALLY close to the SD-1. I've had both. They're very close. I don't know for sure component-wise how close they are, but I've heard, they're very close as well.
The switch thing is not a rumor. It's a fact. Maybe yours is one of the first run of Wylde OD's before they had it. I have a new-ish Wylde OD (not Berzerker) as well as the Classic OD (cheaper Guitar Center exclusive pedal), and the switch does take them to GT-OD mode and Wylde mode. I belive it's just switching a resistor in an out. So definitely not asymmetrical vs symmetrical clipping. The GT-OD is still based on an SD-1.
El Dunco
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Yeah mine is from the first run. I saw some videos of people taking apart their ZW-44s and finding the switch. Adds more of a mid-hump while the Wylde is flatter.
EmiAba
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I have the Gt-Od and it seems to me in the TS ballpark but: has plenty of volume boost available and more gain available. And It's green after all
GuitarStv
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I've always wondered . . . if people want the sound of real tape, why not just record fully digital then play it back and record onto tape when you're done? It would be cheaper to buy an outstanding reference monitor, mic, and a small anaechoic chamber to do the recording in than buy a 24 track tape deck.
Demanic
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Interesting. Possibly knowing that you have limited takes could motivate one to play better.
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Rex_Rocker
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Mine has it. Same as my Classic Overdrive. Funny thing is the boards have a print on them stating they are different revisions. But they sound pretty much the same.
I wouldn't say GT-OD mode adds more mids. Rather, it focuses them lower, more like a Tube Screamer rather than an SD-1. And makes the pedal slightly louder.
Yeah, it's kinda like an in-between TS with the fatter mids with a little of the SD-1's edge. The ZW mode, on the other hand, is pretty much a straight-up SD-1 clone, LOL. Some slight differences, but in the grand scheme of things, very similar.I have the Gt-Od and it seems to me in the TS ballpark but: has plenty of volume boost available and more gain available. And It's green after all
I wouldn't say the GT-OD is louder than a TS with the volume cranked. They're pretty much on par. What does make a difference is the GT-OD has less gain with the knob turned to 0, and more gain with the knob turned to 10.
El Dunco
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That’s pretty much what I do. Go from session into the tape machine (usually just guitars, sometimes drums, sometimes a full mix) and then record back into the session from tape and it keeps the tape artefacts I like on there. 48khz is enough sample rate because the nyquisr frequency is 24khz.
You cannot hear above 24khz I seriously doubt a tape machine produces anything approaching it. Most consumer tape machines don’t have acceptable preamps in so I modified mine to bypass it and use my proper studio pres with.
Here’s a little video of it in action.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n555ymcqlaupkvx/IMG_0081.MOV
I used to record my cds onto high-quality type-II cassettes through the dolby on an early-90s pioneer setup, and the tone was better IMO than the cds or an original cassette of the same album. The tone that the recorded cassette had was fuller and warmer than the original cd, and it sounded clearer and wider than the factory cassette of the same album..
