Bright Pups in One Tele Sound Warm in Another

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Hey guys, I don't think we're going to change many opinions in this thread...

Some feel the species of wood matters more than the characteristics of the particular piece(s) used, others feel its the density and/or weight (or lack thereof), still others feel that the neck and fretboard wood/density/profile matters more than the body, etc.

I have yet to see this forum (or any other) come to a consensus about what "wood" characteristic makes a guitar sound bright, dull, warm, etc., so I don't see the point in arguing it.

No matter how you feel, what we DO know is that there's a lot more to the overall tone formula of a particular guitar than just what type of wood was used or how light, heavy, chambered or solid a piece is.
 
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Lowering the pickups is likely to make them sound brighter.
 
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Well. Still would be nice to hear from the OP again on this i.e. he said he was gonna test some more???

Must admit that the one thing that did stand out for me in one of the OP's very early posts was that one of these guitars was solid while the other one was a bit hollow (something like that) even although they were the same type of guitar (if I understood the OP's posts correctly that is).

Still of the opinion that the problem that the OP was describing is that the difference is TOO extreme to be explained away by different tone woods and whatever else (and then we all proceeded to go off on a "tone wood tangent" of course!!! LOL!!!).

Oh well. Many have done their best here!!!
 
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Maybe his thinline is simply a warmer sounding axe.
Those MIJ pickups tho....yeah, nah.
He should get some nicer ones.
 
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Esseff said:
I know what you are all thinking but it doesn't make sense...
My MIM Deluxe Tele Thinline had Fender Vintage Noiseless pups with the factory 1Meg pots and .022k cap.
I wanted something a little more bright and twangy so I swapped out the pups with a set of MIJ vintage style pups that were very bright in my MIJ Tele. It had 250k pots and 047k cap.
Now, the Thinline still sound warm! Even with the 1 meg pots and 022k cap which should all add up to a very bright sound.
Anyone make any sense out of this?
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No, you don’t know what I am thinking. I’m thinking either the MIM thinline is a warm sounding guitar period-full-stop, your amp is dark, your listening environment is crap, your ears are bad, or you are Scott Grove logging in under another false name. All makes sense to me.
 
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Esseff said:
Ok, good to know.
The only other I have owned was a Mahogany body one and it was very bright. And not suggesting it was the wood, just identifying the model.
Also read that many of the Squiers are very bright but many variables there.
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I had a solid mahogany Tele that was incredibly bright. I wasn't able to tame it and ended up selling the body a few years ago.
 
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The OP suggests that the only difference is that one guitar is solid, the other is hollow. Wood and design DO make a difference in tone. Why do manufacturers make guitars out of different types of wood? Why do they make some solid and some hollow? Why do they make them different shapes? Why does the LP have a reputation for being a warm sounding guitar and a Strat a bright guitar (even with HH)?

I make custom guitars and can tell you that wood and design DO in fact have an affect on tone. But, I also believe that it is small compared to the affect pickups and amps have on the tone. But nevertheless, I have had some mahogany that actually sounded brighter than some maple I've used. And two pieces of the same type of wood from different parts of the same tree can sound different. Go figure.

So, Esseff, open you mind a bit and accept the inevitable truth. (You have even proven it to yourself in your original post...identical guitars with the same type of wood but with different design, sound radically different. It's either because of different pieces of wood, or the design, or both).

Case closed.
 
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