Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

Koreth

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The axe is an Ibanex RG5EX1 purchased back in 2006. Not Ibanez's top quality by a long shot, but it is playable, and I've been good to it and it's been good to me in return. The wood is almost accoustically dead, and I've never heard a kind word spoken about the Edge III tremolo, but I read and followed the instructions in the manual and even had the bridge professionally set up, and it hasn't given me any trouble.

Until now.

So remembering I have a rehearsal tomorrow night, I go to change the worn out strings on my guitar. Fresh strings = win. When changing the 3rd string, I notice a funny little dimple in the flattened part that sat in the saddle. I figured it's nothing and proceed with changing the strings. Everything's going well until I go to stretch the strings so their tuning will be stable. I pull a bit too hard on the 3rd string and it snaps. Damn. Oh well, that's why I buy spares. I replace the 3rd string and again notice the funny little dimple in the flattened part of the string. I shrug it off again and am tightening the saddle when I notice the the little block thingy that sits in the saddle is doing something weird - it is trying to slide up out of the saddle as I tighten the screw instead of pressing against the sting and locking it in place. I loosen, push the block back down into the saddle and try again. It takes a couple times, but I get the block to behave and start tightening the screw that locks the saddle. On the final turn, the saddle snaps in half.

****. :banghead:

Understand, I don't crank the scews on the locking nut or on the saddles as hard as I possibly can, as even with the best quality hardware, that's asking to strip/shear/break the screw bolt or what it's going into. Using the allen wrench that came with the guitar, I turn until it can no longer easily be turned with my thumb and forefinger. That's always been tight enough to ensure that the strings don't slip in the saddles, and I haven't tried go go harder, for fear of exactly this happening. I mean, I didn't think I was tightening the saddles that hard. :(

So now what? Obviously, the simplest and most immediate fix will be to order a replacement saddle, and swap it in. But the bridge is probably going to need to be set up from scratch now (which means the brand new strings I just put on have to come off, yay). Part of me figures that while the axe is dissasembled for repairs, I might as well go ahead with some upgrades. Big sustain block upgrades have been discussed around here recently, and I have found myself wishing for a bit more sustain at times. Another option would be to figure out if any of the other, higher quality versions of the Edge will fit and drop one of those in instead and avoid any future problems from the Edge III down the road.

However, while I do have a month before the next show in which to scrape together the money needed and make the repair, I do not have an infinity of time and money is scary tight at times. I have rehearsals to worry about too. Part of me is thinking it isn't worth it to slap premium hardware on what is an almost accoustically dead axe made in Ibanez's Indonesian factory, and so I should just grab the part number from the Ibanez catalog and fix the bridge.

I have to do *something* though. Does anyone have any advice?
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

I have a couple points to make.

First of all, the most obvious choice is probably the best one...just get a new saddle. Don't worry about the setup, that's not a big deal. The hardware is clearly cheap, but it's on cheap guitar, so you can't expect much (I'm a big Ibanez fan BTW, no disrespect).

The worst option of the ones you mentioned seems to be upgrading that Edge III bridge. Don't throw upgrade money into a crappy piece of hardware in the first place. It doesn't need a new sustain block. A new sustain block won't save the s*itty saddles. This bridge is never going to be great, so just get it working again.

On the other hand, I don't think it is totally unreasonable to replace the whole bridge, for this reason...you can always take the newer/better bridge back off again to use on another guitar/resell. This option doesn't make so much sense to me, seeing as the guitar is acoustically dead anyway. Why put any extra money in it? But if you really can't stand the old Edge III and insist on making this guitar your main axe, this is a step up from trying to upgrade the old crappy hardware.

Just replacing the saddle is cheaper and faster. Do this, and save the money for a better sounding guitar with better hardware in the future. If it's acoustically dead and the hardware is junk, don't spend too much time thinking about it.
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

Why put any extra money in it? ... it's acoustically dead and the hardware is junk.

+1. You can pour money into that guitar, and it won't do anything for the resale value. It's not worth the time or effort, & you can't afford to drop the cash into upgrades anyways. It was a lousy-sounding guitar before the bridge went. If you're serious about your playing: cut your losses, sell it and get another guitar; there's plenty of great deals on good used ones these days. Look around.
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

that's the thing about Ibanez

their professional-quality stuff is on the cutting edge of modern guitar design and is comparable to Fender or Jackson's top of the line stuff

but their mid- to entry-level stuff is cheap crap that breaks

sorry you got hosed. Do you use a lot of trem? Cuz the day i sold my only guitar with a double-locking trem i felt as if a huge burden was lifted off my chest...

Sell that thing for like $250...get another $100 and grab a used Fat Strat or something...i've never seen or heard of a Fender saddle breaking from overuse.
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

While I do realize the axe is cheap and built to be a throwaway axe, I guess I negelected to mention that despite it's flaws, it fits very comfortably in my hands, and is a very playable guitar. That's why it has been my main axe for 3 years.

Regarding the quality, if up until now the only wear the axe has taken is the finish on the face and on the bridge being polished to a shine by where my hands sit when playing, and a chip on the side from when it got dropped by a bad strap, I'd consider that holding up very well. Despite all the hate on the internet for the Edge III bridge, after getting it set up right, I've never had tuning issues, tuning has been very stable despite whammy bar abuse (and it does get used). An aside, I'll bet the crack in the #3 saddle started a couple years as a result of said dropping by a bad strap, as the axe fell on it's face strong enough to pop the bridge off it's posts. Taking 2 years to crack in half after a hard whack I would think is damn good for cheap pot metal.

I do intend to replace the cheap Ibanez some some other higher quality guitar, just not in the near future. I don't have the money right now to go looking at replacements, and I doubt I'll find another guitar that plays as comfortable as the Ibanez does for only a couple hundred bucks. I figure I might as well just save up my pennies for a nice MIA or MIJ piece. Until then, gotta keep the Ibanez alive.
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

So I called a few local shops around here I know are Ibanez dealers, and eventually ended up calling Guitar Center, since that's where I bought the axe. Guitar center said they don't stock the part and would have to order it. When he called me back, he said that says that the part won't ship to them until the end of the month.

****. That's when my show is. :banghead:
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

Doesn't Ibenhad sell those parts directly?

Score one off EBay?


And it's not just cheap Ibenhad bridges, I split a genuine OFR saddle under the same conditions back in '88 on a Kramer Focus 1000.
 
Re: Broke the bridge on my main axe - ****! Now what?

So the new saddle arrived today. A whole new setup from scratch wasn't necessary. Just a quick line with a mechanical pencil on the base plate to mark the old saddle's location, install the new one, restring, double check the intonation and all is good. With all strings in place, stretched and tuned to pitch, the bridge is sitting level, and the relief and action are right were they were before and thus right where I want them.

The new saddle is the wrong color. It is some polished chrome color instead of the flat pewter color that the rest of the stock hardware on the guitar is, but it doesn't stand out too much as the rest of the bridge had been polished where my hand sits anyway. The new saddle could be barbie pink with neon green and orange highlights and I wouldn't care - my guitar is no longer broken.
 
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