C.C. DeVille's guitar tone and rig back in the day?

mrfunnyman

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I know C.C. has been bashed and trashed by guitar magazines and guitarists alike, but I always really dug his tone, on " Look What the Cat Dragged In" and "Open Up and Say Ahhh...". I'm really disappointed on the lack of content about his guitars and gear after surfing on the web. Does anybody know what type of amps, pick ups, guitars, etc. he used back in the heydey? I'm pretty interetsed in finding out what I can I always thought he was a Marshall guy but earlier today I was watching a live Poison concert from 91 and saw that he was using Crate half-stacks. Let's shed some light on this guy's gear I know a couple of you on here gotta know what he used.
 
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Used ALOT of diff guitars then.. Many BC richs, charvels. Im curious to as I love his tone on the Fallen angel solo.. I have tried to see in vids but appears to often be crates and stuff..
 
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I found this online and a couple of references to him using BC Rich guitars back in the day too, which I remember in the videos. Sounds like he used Crate amps quite a bit and may have mixed them with Marshall's and Soldano's. I never found any reference to his pickups. That would lead me to believe he used stock pups.....maybe a JB, since that was the hot pickup in the 80's for hair metal.

I've always liked CC. I can get pretty close to his tone with a PATB-1 in my basswood superstrat, FWIW.
 
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Always dug CC back in the day. I'd like to know more about his studio stuff.

I remember doing a web search a while ago and coming up just as empty and frustrated as the OP...
 
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CC Deville is great. The video of Talk Dirty to Me made me want to play guitar.

CC used a load of different amps, guitars, effects, and wasnt shy about mixing them up.

His tone is pretty easy to get. It's really based on solid state distortion that Randalls has back in the day. I have a Charvel with a '59 neck, JB8 bridge. If you take that with an amp that has a hot rodded Marshall setting, add delay and reverb, you have it.
 
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CC Deville is great. The video of Talk Dirty to Me made me want to play guitar.

CC used a load of different amps, guitars, effects, and wasnt shy about mixing them up.

His tone is pretty easy to get. It's really based on solid state distortion that Randalls has back in the day. I have a Charvel with a '59 neck, JB8 bridge. If you take that with an amp that has a hot rodded Marshall setting, add delay and reverb, you have it.

So the solid state Randall sound was basically an attempt to mimic a hot rodded Marshall? Always wondered about that...
 
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So the solid state Randall sound was basically an attempt to mimic a hot rodded Marshall? Always wondered about that...

Back then it seemed every amp was trying to mimic a hot rodded Marshall tone, because that was THE high gain tone at the time. Everyone was modding their Marshalls, and the JCM900 line was supposed to mimic the mods people were doing to their Marshall for higher gain... so the true "Marshall Tone" during that period kind of lost its identity. The Boss DS-1 pedal was created in 1979, and made its way to countless 80's albums, and IMO is the "hot rodded Marshall tone" you hear on many 80's albums. If you get a DS-1, you may find it's CC's Rhythm tone in a box. A typical pedalboard at the time would be a compressor--DS-1--chorus--delay--reverb. If you plub that into a clean Fender amp, you'll have his tone.

Unlike today where it seems everyone's trying to mimic a Mesa Dual Rectifier.
 
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I don't know what he used back in the 80's. In the back of the Swallow This live CD, it says he used Crate amps, preferred but not endorsed by Ibanez Guitars, etc...

Poison toured with Def Lep a couple years ago and I was unfortunate enough to see that sad display. That being said, I was close enough to see pretty much his whole rig and some of his pedal board. Apparently he upgraded his gear, but his tone was horrible. He had 3 Marshall cabs on stage. What looked to be a Mesa Dual Recto and I think a JCM800 of sorts. There was a combo amp off to the side, but I couldn't see what it was. All I could make out on his board was a Crybaby, a DS-1 and it looked like he had an MXR Distortion+ necks to it. He played a GMP V for most of the set and he sounded horrible. The guy setting next to me was a guitar player to and we were both making cracks about how he managed to get strings on a weedeater and plug it into a Marshall.

It didn't really help matters when you have guys like Vivian Campbell and Phil Collen, who both have awesome tone, come on directly after.

I really like Poison and 80's metal in general, but wow it was really bad.
 
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I just found out recently that he played the guitar solo on Warrant's Cherry Pie.
 
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He is still using solid state Crates, at least the last time I saw them. I was up front and he had them at the side of the stage. His tone is just god awful to my ears. The most important part of his rig is the mirror he kept on top of the amp to check his hair before the encore. And I'm not joking. :nana:
 
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So the solid state Randall sound was basically an attempt to mimic a hot rodded Marshall? Always wondered about that...
Randalls became really popular in the late 80's. I can't blame people for using them when you consider a lot of these guys were using modded Marshall's that were being destroyed on the road. The Randall's were very reliable and always sound the same.
 
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He is still using solid state Crates, at least the last time I saw them. I was up front and he had them at the side of the stage. His tone is just god awful to my ears. The most important part of his rig is the mirror he kept on top of the amp to check his hair before the encore. And I'm not joking. :nana:

NICE! That's quality at it's best...
 
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The most important part of his rig is the mirror he kept on top of the amp to check his hair before the encore. And I'm not joking. :nana:
That's not what the mirror was for back in their heyday though.;)
 
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I lived in Los Angeles back in the day. Poison was playing the strip and had just released their first album.

I went to a concert that had Cinderella, Poison with Loudness headlining.

I had never seen Poison but the guitar tone was Awsome. Cruncy, loud and in the front of the mix.
The other bands sound good but the guitars were lost in the mix compared to Poison.
 
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How have your choices in the gear you’ve used evolved over time?

Like everyone else, I was always searching for that tone. When you get older, you get wisdom. I should have realized that tone is relative. Everyone is searching for that magical tone, but everyone is searching for a different tone. So there is not one great tone, it’s the tone you like. But when I was younger, I thought there was just one great tone – Eddie Van Halen’s on the first Van Halen record. That was the guitar sound I always heard in my head, but I never got it.

When I progressed to a more professional level, I was using two Marshall heads and two Marshall cabinets, but I could never get a good sound with them. They were 50-watt Mark II heads and I had them hotwired by Frank Levi. For some reason, I didn’t like the way they sounded after they were modded, so I had him undo the mods.

When I moved to Los Angeles, I took the heads to a guy there. He hotwired the amps again, with the same mod I had taken out, and then he asked me if I realized he was the one who had originally worked on them in New York. Well, I still didn’t like the tone (laughs). I tried all kinds of things. At the time, Zeke Clark, who was my tech, suggested I get a Bradshaw rack. He set me up with all this big stuff and it sounded alright, but I didn’t really like it. I had H&H power amps, Soldano preamps, a Lexicon PCM 70 delay, a Yamaha REV7 digital reverb, all of the switching systems, and a brain mixer. As long as Zeke was controlling it, it worked out fine, but if I didn’t have someone there running it, I couldn’t even turn it on because there was so much stuff.

Next, I got a transistor Crate head with insane gain. I loved the sound of that amp, so I used it for a while. Then I slowly just started getting away from the Bradshaw rig and going direct into the amp, without any effects, and that was the only time I had any fun. For this tour, I borrowed a Soldano Hot Rod 100 head and I went direct into the amp with two speaker cabinets. I also had a Carvin Legacy head and I would switch between the Legacy and Soldano, depending on the venue. Once I simplified the rig, it was great.

When I first got those Marshalls, I was playing a B.C. Rich Mockingbird. I loved that guitar, and I still have it. Then when I moved to L.A. I got a Charvel Strat with flames, a Fender-style headstock, one pickup, and a whammy bar. The body was made of alder and it’s really light. That was a great little guitar, too.

Now, I’m playing a Matty Baratto Flying V, a custom-made Strat with disco-ball mirrors on it, an ESP Les Paul with a whammy bar, and some great Washburn guitars. They sent me a Strat-style N-2 and a lime green (Dime Slime) Dimebag Darrell Signature Model. That one is so pointy, but it’s great.
 
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JBish pickups into a boosted marshally amp with the bass turned waaaaay down. That's what I hear anyways.
 
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I read where he said he compressed the front end and the back end of his Marshall amp head to get his tone. Not sure how to compress the back end- but I think any real high gain amp with the right speakers can get you that tone now. I can easily get that tone with a Duncan JB-EVH 2x12 combo-and channel 3-turn the guitar volume knob down for rhythm and up for solo fills. Soldono and a Bogner Shiva can too. I would also look at Engle, Hues N Kettner, Friedman and yes the right Marshal. Some of that tone is the amp heads bass turned down a little but played through a 4x12 cab to put the overall bass back in the tone.
 
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