Cabs: Rectifier vs. 1960A

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The jcm900 1960 cabinets come with g12t-75 speakers. Some people like them, but they don't do the 'Marshall' sound that I know and love. Provided that your head is not crap, a 1960b with greenbacks should not disappoint :13:
 
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Another thing that's greatly helped every cab I've ever come across is to remove that cheese whiz 24 guarge wire inside & replace it with a WAY heavier guage speaker cable, like 12 or 14 guage.

World of difference.

Especially for the bottom end.
 
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Gearjoneser said:
The main thing causing flab would be the amp head, but if you want to tighten up the sound of a Marshall cab, replace the back panel with birch plywood and put a thin layer of Corning insulation on the inside of it. I noticed that's one secret of high end cabs. It kills standing waves inside, and sounds better than the particle board one Marshall uses now. The rest of the cab is fine.
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thanks man
 
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J Moose said:
Another thing that's greatly helped every cab I've ever come across is to remove that cheese whiz 24 guarge wire inside & replace it with a WAY heavier guage speaker cable, like 12 or 14 guage.
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I just did that with a Marshall JCM 900 cab...took out the 'switching' electronics and went with switchcraft plugs and heavy wire. Sound more 'present', like it had a blanket over the speakers before the rewire.

Gearjoneser said:
The main thing causing flab would be the amp head, but if you want to tighten up the sound of a Marshall cab, replace the back panel with birch plywood and put a thin layer of Corning insulation on the inside of it. I noticed that's one secret of high end cabs. It kills standing waves inside, and sounds better than the particle board one Marshall uses now. The rest of the cab is fine.
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My little bro and I cut a new back for my oversized Bandmaster Reverb cab. We went with birch plywood and it makes a huge difference. The bass is more present and the cab has an overall 'thicker' tone. I'm so pleased with that cab that when I go back for a visit we're gonna cut new backs for both of my JCM 900's as well. :)
 
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In the uk i can get a Marshall cab for £330 and a Mesa cab for about £900..
Bogner for about £700.


In my experience mesa cabs are lovely, but marshall cabs are certaintly not bad, they are awesome for the price, atleast in this country.
 
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Gearjoneser said:
The main thing causing flab would be the amp head, but if you want to tighten up the sound of a Marshall cab, replace the back panel with birch plywood and put a thin layer of Corning insulation on the inside of it. I noticed that's one secret of high end cabs. It kills standing waves inside, and sounds better than the particle board one Marshall uses now. The rest of the cab is fine.
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When Scott Splawn was modding cabs, this is exactly what he did, along with replacing the puny stock wire with heavy duty stuff. Really makes a big difference in tone for sure.
 
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J Moose said:
Another thing that's greatly helped every cab I've ever come across is to remove that cheese whiz 24 guarge wire inside & replace it with a WAY heavier guage speaker cable, like 12 or 14 guage.

World of difference.

Especially for the bottom end.
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Where can I get such wire?
 
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Kyuss_Rock said:
And they are all twice the price. But far from twice the quality.
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Dunno how things are in the UK, but over here marshalls are pretty close in price to mesa, VHT, and splawn cabs.

And the price difference is definitely worth it.

This thread's got me thinking about re-wiring my mesa cab though. Already did my 2X10 today with some 16 gauge wire. hmm......
 
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Do you coat the whole interior with insulation or just the back/sides/whatever? I may try that with my splawn just for the hell of it.. but yes I absolutely love my splawn cab. Thickened the tone and made the bass response/quality go from 4 out of 10 to about 9 out of 10. Thank you Scott Splawn!
 
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**ck all this insulation/beam blocker sh**! Why buy a cabinet and pack it full of foam and cover the speakers? If you dampen the strings well with your palm, you can fatten your tone up with your hands! It's all technique. When I first started playing, my sound was all trebly and loose. I learned from watching and listening to good players that the better you get at shaping the sound with the palm of your picking hand, the fatter/smoother it sounds. Get a good cabinet, and let it breathe! I use the Mesa standard rectifier cabs. I switch out 2 Vin 30's for 2 G12H30's in an x-pattern. They are the most awesome sounding cabs I've played. Anybody who knocks the standard rectifier cabs as being boomy, don't know how to eq an amp.
 
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ugh the b-52 AT-100 and ST-100 cabs are built better than marshall cabs, and rival the sound of mesas. Don't include them with crap cabs like crate. They are $400 and $600 respectively not $300. 13 ply birch. you won't hear "1" rattle from a b-52 cab anyone who owns one will tell you its one of the best sounding cabs they've used. Alot of people are even buying them just for the cab and replacing the speakers with their favorites because the cabs sound so good. I got rid of my marshall 1960A cab for a B-52 AT-100 cab because it was a huge difference in sound.
 
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disturb said:
**ck all this insulation/beam blocker sh**! Why buy a cabinet and pack it full of foam and cover the speakers? If you dampen the strings well with your palm, you can fatten your tone up with your hands! It's all technique. When I first started playing, my sound was all trebly and loose. I learned from watching and listening to good players that the better you get at shaping the sound with the palm of your picking hand, the fatter/smoother it sounds. Get a good cabinet, and let it breathe! I use the Mesa standard rectifier cabs. I switch out 2 Vin 30's for 2 G12H30's in an x-pattern. They are the most awesome sounding cabs I've played. Anybody who knocks the standard rectifier cabs as being boomy, don't know how to eq an amp.
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I've had weber beam blockers and they sucked the life out of my speakers. My cab sounded WAY quieter, and lost its full sound. i recommend NEVER using these things. My cab was still harsh with them too.
 
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Hands down the Mesa Recto cab, I play my Marshalls and Mesa's through this and it sounds bigger and fuller than the 1960, which I believe is loaded with the GT12-75's which I dont like. I think the V30's in the Recto cabs are different than the Celestions you buy off the shelf, if I am not mistaken they are 70 watts as opposed to the 60 watt stock model - someone correct me if thats wrong.

JQ
 
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Johnny Q said:
Hands down the Mesa Recto cab, I play my Marshalls and Mesa's through this and it sounds bigger and fuller than the 1960, which I believe is loaded with the GT12-75's which I dont like. I think the V30's in the Recto cabs are different than the Celestions you buy off the shelf, if I am not mistaken they are 70 watts as opposed to the 60 watt stock model - someone correct me if thats wrong.

JQ
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Celestion makes 3 voicings of V30's:

Mesa - 70W, a bit brighter.
Marshall - 70W, a bit duller.
Standard - 60W.
 
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