Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

Re: Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

power handling is basically heat dissipation, the higher the power rating the more heat the speaker can dissipate. a 100w speaker dissipates heat better than a 30w speaker so it can take more power before it fails.

efficiency or sensitivity is unrelated to power handling. typically it is measured in dB at 1 meter with a one watt signal fed into the speaker. a higher (100db for example) rating means the speaker puts out more volume with the same power (1 w) than a lower rated speaker (96 db). so comparing a g12m greenback (97 db) to a g12h (100 db) the g12h will put out more volume with the same signal from the amp.

so in this case you have 12w of power, putting a more efficient or sensitive speaker will give you more volume. with a 12w amp i would shy away from using a 100w speaker since you wont be pushing it very hard and it might be sterile sounding. this is pure speculation on my part and dont let what i like tonally influence you too much, it could be just what you are looking for. as you said, even a 30w speaker probably wont break up much in this situation.

when kelsey says not to put much stock in comparing ratings between different manufacturers, there is some validity to that. the biggest discrepancy is in the 1 meter measurement. where are they measuring from? the dust cap of the speaker or the front of the baffle? that could be a couple inches difference which will definitly change things. having said that, its not like comparing apples to oranges, more like a granny smith to a yellow delicious. a 100 db jensen rating may not be the same as a 100 db jbl rating but you should get that both are loud speakers.
 
Re: Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

It will depend on how much clean headroom you need as well. My Tweed has a bit, but not much. If you need clean your volume will be down.
 
Re: Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

thanks a lot for clearing that up jeremy... :) an effective speaker is surely essential for the amp.

I was thinking for a g12h30 for the tweed deluxe. It's only 30 watts so it shouldn't be sterile, and it is efficient enough (from what I understand). If the red fang didn't have the huge magnet cover it would definately be an option.

Do you remember any other efficient speakers?

I guess kalsey is right, these things should be standard for everyone.

bytheway, the only thing you have to do to raise the plate volate is to change a rect tube and that's it??
 
Re: Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

the amount of gain depends alot on what tube you put in v1. it should be a 12ay7 and that will give you a fatter cleaner tone, i like mine this way. lots of people put a 12ax7 in there are you get way more gain and maybe a touch more volume that way but lose some clean headroom.

changing the recto tube will increase all the voltages, i wouldnt go any higher than a 5v4. a gz34 or 5u4 is probably too much for the amp, best not to blow things up. pull the 5y3 out, put the 5v4 in and bam, 40v more on the plates its that easy. like i said, it does change the tone since you are changing the voltage on the preamp tubes and through out the circut but for the $10 the 5v4 cost me its nice to have another option.
 
Re: Can a tweed deluxe handle a band practice?

Yeah, it's avery good idea to have a different pre amp tube and different rectifier tube handy. You can get a lot more tone options with that.
 
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