Can anyone accuratey describe the difference between.....

[gimmieinfo]

....the pearly gates set and the custom shop version both as far as tone and dynamics?

 

[jeremy]

the custom shop version is a bit higher output, thicker in the mids, with a touch less open high end.

 

[gimmieinfo]

the custom shop version is a bit higher output, thicker in the mids, with a touch less open high end.

All those differences can be attributed to a higher wind which begs the question, are there differences in material quality or are they just adding a few hundred ohms and charging way more for that.

 

[beaubrummels]

There's a decent description in this thread

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/333102-sd-custom-shop-pearly-gates-opinions

 

[gimmieinfo]

There's a decent description in this thread

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/333102-sd-custom-shop-pearly-gates-opinions

Great thread, thanks ! Based on the descriptions I have always read about smooth vs rough, I can see how a rough A2 would be a big part of the difference and I would bet would get my production PGs to sound like i want. They're close, but the mids are a bit thin, treble a bit much, and it could just use a smoother more sustaining tone. That sounds like roughcast compared to they are now, and i'm talking just a BIT more like that, nothing huge at all. They're almost there as they are but a tiny bit bigger smoother mids and slightly less or more rounded treble would be perfect. I wonder if roughcast bars would get me there. On the other hand it could potentially ruin the open transparent tone they have as they are now.

 

[Chistopher]

Is this the same as the Pearly Gates Plus?

 

[jeremy]

nope. that was a fender only pup, little different wind and a5 magnet.

 

[hamerfan]

Is this the same as the Pearly Gates Plus?

I had one in a Les Paul some time ago. I found it annoyingly bright. Tried to tame it with an A2 and an A8 magnet, but no cigar.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I had one in a Les Paul some time ago. I found it annoyingly bright. Tried to tame it with an A2 and an A8 magnet, but no cigar.

I actually had one in my Road Worn Strat and I found it kinda blunt for being a vintage output pickup.

I assume it could've been either 250K pots (don't even remember what pot values guitar came with originally) or that guitar just being blunt-sounding from having the bridge pickup so far away from the bridge itself.

 

[Aceman]

I have a strat w/ a PG+. The 250k pots definitely do something for it.

Of course, consider most Gibson are gonna have 300k

At the moment, both of my PG's in bridges of Les Pauls are 9k winds.

 

[jeremy]

wut? most gibsons are not gonna have 250k pots, maybe 300k, maybe 500k

 

[Aceman]

wut? most gibsons are not gonna have 250k pots, maybe 300k, maybe 500k

Sorry - 300k - fixed.

Do they even care what pots they throw in?

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Depends on the era too. Newer Gibsons have had 500K pots all around for at least 20 years or so now.

 

[jeremy]

Sorry - 300k - fixed.

Do they even care what pots they throw in?

not really, as long as you cough up the big dollas.