Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
what's wrong with an LP which won't break at the headstock if dropped down ? :jester:
what's wrong with an LP which won't break at the headstock if dropped down ? :jester:
Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
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Coma
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
I believe it was Jesus himself who said "let him who is without sin cast the fir... THAT SONOFAB*TCH PUT A FENDER HEADSTOCK ON A GIBSON, GET HIM!"
I believe it was Jesus himself who said "let him who is without sin cast the fir... THAT SONOFAB*TCH PUT A FENDER HEADSTOCK ON A GIBSON, GET HIM!"
Discharged
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Also... from all you said you tried, which one of those make a LP sound like a strat? None that you know of, isn't it?
For the record, I owned every Roland Synth since the GR-700 in 1985 until very recently, when I sold my GR-55 because the musical projects I've been involved with haven't call for a guitar-synth in a long time, and I could use the cash.
You can make a guitar to sound like a piano with such o similar system. However, using the same system o similar, making a LP sound like a strat is NOT on the table. Never have, never will. Wanna sound like a strat, you get a strat and play it. There are several Squiers and Pacificas that'll allow to to do that for as low as seventy bucks.
So take it from somebody with actual hands-on experience with the topic at hand.
/Peter
As I thought. Anyway, there are simulations that allow you to run Windows in Linux. However, you don't need windows or any computer to run the controller installed on your guitar to drive the sound modules. Just the GK-3 pickup and a GR-20 or a GR-55. But of course you knew that, isn't it?
Also... from all you said you tried, which one of those make a LP sound like a strat? None that you know of, isn't it?
For the record, I owned every Roland Synth since the GR-700 in 1985 until very recently, when I sold my GR-55 because the musical projects I've been involved with haven't call for a guitar-synth in a long time, and I could use the cash.
You can make a guitar to sound like a piano with such o similar system. However, using the same system o similar, making a LP sound like a strat is NOT on the table. Never have, never will. Wanna sound like a strat, you get a strat and play it. There are several Squiers and Pacificas that'll allow to to do that for as low as seventy bucks.
So take it from somebody with actual hands-on experience with the topic at hand.
/Peter
Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
So, you had trouble getting Strat/SC or LP/HB tones out of your gr55? I know ppl who swear by it (and yes I have every reason to believe them).
Its not that I question your experience bro, its just that I find it very hard that it can't be made possible with todays tech.
I mean its ok for you to be able to turn a dog into a dino, but not a dog to a wolf? Look at the genetic distance..
But the thing here is the polyphonic realtime tracking using stock conventional pups!!! Why spend 175 (gk-3) + 500 (gr55) on older technology while you can use new technology with no mods to your guitar for some 90 USD ?
So, you had trouble getting Strat/SC or LP/HB tones out of your gr55? I know ppl who swear by it (and yes I have every reason to believe them).
Its not that I question your experience bro, its just that I find it very hard that it can't be made possible with todays tech.
I mean its ok for you to be able to turn a dog into a dino, but not a dog to a wolf? Look at the genetic distance..
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PFDarkside
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
I heard that's the next Electro Harmonix 9 series pedal.
Obsessive Compulsive
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Do you base your claim on extensive experimentation and research or are you just reiterating myth circulating among people on the internet?
I personally think that is bullcrap.
Do you base your claim on extensive experimentation and research or are you just reiterating myth circulating among people on the internet?
I personally think that is bullcrap.
Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Alright, I just went through the painful experience of booting winblows, and gave midi guitar 2 a go. Not mind blowing but not bad either. I mean playing some basic semi-convincing piano after 3-4 clicks is nice. The fact that it reminds me a lot of rakarrack and the fact that this nice piece of software (rakarrack) lies in the open source junk yard for quite some years now made me reconsider. Maybe there is no market for all this? Or at least some market with a future perspective? Those futuristic UFO-style design MIDI guitars are out there since the 80s... yet still ppl talk today about Strat/LP tone??? Something hasn't worked OK in the evolution process. That's all I have to say.
Alright, I just went through the painful experience of booting winblows, and gave midi guitar 2 a go. Not mind blowing but not bad either. I mean playing some basic semi-convincing piano after 3-4 clicks is nice. The fact that it reminds me a lot of rakarrack and the fact that this nice piece of software (rakarrack) lies in the open source junk yard for quite some years now made me reconsider. Maybe there is no market for all this? Or at least some market with a future perspective? Those futuristic UFO-style design MIDI guitars are out there since the 80s... yet still ppl talk today about Strat/LP tone??? Something hasn't worked OK in the evolution process. That's all I have to say.
Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
You have made your deliberate deafness well known to us already.
You have made your deliberate deafness well known to us already.
Obsessive Compulsive
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Ha..ha...I bet you think you are a real expert, don't you?
Unfortunately for you pal, the real world is bigger than the pond you live in you call SDUGF.
Ha..ha...I bet you think you are a real expert, don't you?
Unfortunately for you pal, the real world is bigger than the pond you live in you call SDUGF.
RorySquier
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Maybe you should take up fishing and chill a bit.
;>)/
Maybe you should take up fishing and chill a bit.
;>)/
Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
If you like strat tones you will love P90 tones. I was a strat man for years then I played a P90. I still love the Fender design single coils but the P90 just has more.
I think the custom shop has humbucker sized P90s and even single coils disguised as humbuckers. I would go for the P90s though. Search YouTube for Gibson R6 and you will hear the beauty of P90s in a Les Paul.
If you like strat tones you will love P90 tones. I was a strat man for years then I played a P90. I still love the Fender design single coils but the P90 just has more.
I think the custom shop has humbucker sized P90s and even single coils disguised as humbuckers. I would go for the P90s though. Search YouTube for Gibson R6 and you will hear the beauty of P90s in a Les Paul.
Jacew
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Longer scale and sandwich body makes slight difference I think. But the biggest reason why LP won't sound like strat would have to be trem springs.
Longer scale and sandwich body makes slight difference I think. But the biggest reason why LP won't sound like strat would have to be trem springs.
Jacew
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
I can't say if this relates, but changing to a just slightly thicker strings makes them stiffer, which has noticeable effect on tone in strat. I would say the scale might make similar effect.
I can't say if this relates, but changing to a just slightly thicker strings makes them stiffer, which has noticeable effect on tone in strat. I would say the scale might make similar effect.
hamerfan
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
My hardtail superstrat with a humbucker sounds more like a strat than a LP!
My hardtail superstrat with a humbucker sounds more like a strat than a LP!
Jacew
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
My strat with 3-spring floating trem sounds more like LP than strat in series mode
Didn't meant it to be definitive, just that it has greater impact on overall tone than woods for instance.
My strat with 3-spring floating trem sounds more like LP than strat in series mode
Didn't meant it to be definitive, just that it has greater impact on overall tone than woods for instance.
Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
Another option is to put minihumbuckers (deluxe or firebird type) into a LP.....or even the slug type p90s which more resemble strat pickups in that the poles are magnets.
Body shape + depth, scale length, neck attachment type (a small factor) will all make cumulative differences. A guitar is a physical object.....so of course physical aspects will affect the outcome. The less the pickup and amp do to stamp their tonal footprint on the outcome the more you will hear it.
Another option is to put minihumbuckers (deluxe or firebird type) into a LP.....or even the slug type p90s which more resemble strat pickups in that the poles are magnets.
Body shape + depth, scale length, neck attachment type (a small factor) will all make cumulative differences. A guitar is a physical object.....so of course physical aspects will affect the outcome. The less the pickup and amp do to stamp their tonal footprint on the outcome the more you will hear it.
Discharged
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Re: Can I make my Les Paul sound like a Strat?
And assuming that your statement is of course backed up with extensive research you've personally conducted on the subject, I then may as well also assume the results are available to further study.
As somebody really interested in this very topic, I'd gracefully ask for a link or the ISBN code of the printed publication containing the study.
Until you get back to us, and just to save me some time in the meanwhile, please tell what terms should I use to search for this? Would "Obsessive Compulsive" + "Bullcrap" do?
/Peter
And assuming that your statement is of course backed up with extensive research you've personally conducted on the subject, I then may as well also assume the results are available to further study.
As somebody really interested in this very topic, I'd gracefully ask for a link or the ISBN code of the printed publication containing the study.
Until you get back to us, and just to save me some time in the meanwhile, please tell what terms should I use to search for this? Would "Obsessive Compulsive" + "Bullcrap" do?
/Peter
