Can the Psyclone Hot be ordered with a 4-conductor cable?
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Clint 55
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I did a quick ebay search for shop floor custom psyclone hot and didn't find anything. Sometimes there will be 4 conductor shop floor customs available right away. It doesn't look like there are any right now so you would have to order your own shop floor custom or simply convert it yourself. About the custom shop, there was a thread the other day that a guy placed an order recently and it went through.
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MJGuitar
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Mincer, you're too kind. I'm having a new guitar built for me and the whole idea behind the guitar was the Psyclone! I've always wanted a slightly twisted Jazzmaster guitar and I've commissioned Tom Waghorn to build one for me. It normally takes about a year for him to build me a guitar, so it's not really a rush, but I would like to get the order in sooner than later.
Clint 55
OH THE DOUBLE THICK GLAZE!
You're welcome. When the shop was running, the best way for me to get through was call, dial for the operator, and then ask to speak to someone in the custom shop. It would work every time.
You don't need the custom shop for a different lead tho. Just speak to your shop which is a Duncan dealer and does 'shop floor customs'.
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beaubrummels
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Kind of interested in how this works out. My understanding is Filtertron type pickups are wired with parallel coils by default, so going 4-con would be the first time to hear series and split coils in that type of pickup. I wonder how it would sound.
MJGuitar
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Beau, here's the latest updates on the build. It's taken significantly longer than I thought, but this thing is going to rock.
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freefrog
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Yep, the guitar is cool.
Regarding Filter'Tron's, if I can share something: they are wired in series, just like Gibson style HB's. But each coil measures 2k to 2.3k instead of 4k for an average P.A.F. clone...
Consequently, their inductance is very low. The lowest AFAIK from a well known humbucker : 1.4H to 1.8H in series for a standard FT. Between a Tri-Sonic (1.9H) and a lipstick single coil (1.35H).
Ray Butts, who designed the FT, did know his stuff: to avoid any excessive brightness and weakness due to a very high pitched resonant frequency, he did take advantage of Foucault currents (carefully tuned thx to the H shaped slot in the cover) and double thick bar magnets. But his FT was meant to be always in series with a so low inductance.
Considering all that, I'd personally avoid usual split or parallel operation with a regular FT and would favor some creative wiring : front coil of the neck PU in series with the rear coil of the bridge unit and reciprocally, for instance. And both real coils or front coils in series out of phase (which should maintain humbucking operation and give a Rickenbacker vibe).
Now, the Psyclone "Hot" has necessarily a more robust inductance than a normal FT, so it should sound good split or in parallel and my tedious rambling doesn't apply to it.
FWIW : my unrequested two cents, just to share...
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Regarding Filter'Tron's, if I can share something: they are wired in series, just like Gibson style HB's. But each coil measures 2k to 2.3k instead of 4k for an average P.A.F. clone...
Consequently, their inductance is very low. The lowest AFAIK from a well known humbucker : 1.4H to 1.8H in series for a standard FT. Between a Tri-Sonic (1.9H) and a lipstick single coil (1.35H).
Ray Butts, who designed the FT, did know his stuff: to avoid any excessive brightness and weakness due to a very high pitched resonant frequency, he did take advantage of Foucault currents (carefully tuned thx to the H shaped slot in the cover) and double thick bar magnets. But his FT was meant to be always in series with a so low inductance.
Considering all that, I'd personally avoid usual split or parallel operation with a regular FT and would favor some creative wiring : front coil of the neck PU in series with the rear coil of the bridge unit and reciprocally, for instance. And both real coils or front coils in series out of phase (which should maintain humbucking operation and give a Rickenbacker vibe).
Now, the Psyclone "Hot" has necessarily a more robust inductance than a normal FT, so it should sound good split or in parallel and my tedious rambling doesn't apply to it.
FWIW : my unrequested two cents, just to share...
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Ascension
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Be careful with Filtertrons they look weak on paper but are deceptively hot in reality in a guitar. I finally got a chance to play a set of the full size Psyclones and was shocked at how hot they were. It's the design itself that is deceptive as you look at the DC resistance number and think the pickup is weak but it's NOT! Just be aware of this.
Ascension
Well-known member
Yep, the guitar is cool.
Regarding Filter'Tron's, if I can share something: they are wired in series, just like Gibson style HB's. But each coil measures 2k to 2.3k instead of 4k for an average P.A.F. clone...
Consequently, their inductance is very low. The lowest AFAIK from a well known humbucker : 1.4H to 1.8H in series for a standard FT. Between a Tri-Sonic (1.9H) and a lipstick single coil (1.35H).
Ray Butts, who designed the FT, did know his stuff: to avoid any excessive brightness and weakness due to a very high pitched resonant frequency, he did take advantage of Foucault currents (carefully tuned thx to the H shaped slot in the cover) and double thick bar magnets. But his FT was meant to be always in series with a so low inductance.
Considering all that, I'd personally avoid usual split or parallel operation with a regular FT and would favor some creative wiring : front coil of the neck PU in series with the rear coil of the bridge unit and reciprocally, for instance. And both real coils or front coils in series out of phase (which should maintain humbucking operation and give a Rickenbacker vibe).
Now, the Psyclone "Hot" has necessarily a more robust inductance than a normal FT, so it should sound good split or in parallel and my tedious rambling doesn't apply to it.
FWIW : my unrequested two cents, just to share...
Looks like you are giving tec info on the same thing I was talking about. Filtertrons are a pretty unique design and are much hotter in reality than they will look on paper. The raw DC resistance numbers make them look to be close to a vintage single coil in output but in reality they are much hotter.
freefrog
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Agreed, since they can sound close to Gibson style HB's in tone and output level thx to a 3,3nF cap from hot to ground in parallel with them. That's my lil' hack for the "mud switch".
For years, I'm even not far to think that FT's gave the idea of his Super-Distortion to Larry DiMarzio: symetrical coils, big poles, big magnet... Of course, the DM has 4 times more inductance, thick hex screws are not skinny screw poles and ceramic differs from AlNiCo but these PU's have a common way to rentabilize magnetism, to me.
My indifferent rambling was only about coil spliting, that I would still avoid with a regular FT. I think that TV Jones recommends to avoid it too. But why not, uh? Nothing is worth personal experimentation, after all.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Interesting. You do that in parallel? Wouldn't that roll off a bit of high-end? My de-mud does 1 nF, (.001 uf), in series. Just curious.
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