Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

[Gone_Shootin]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I brought the Helix with me in the truck and have been playing it through the headphone out and into my truck's head unit front aux input, and I can see why some guys just go with a full range setup. It sounds great. But I would still want to have an actual guitar cab in a band situation. I've also figured out how use some of the routing options and other features, but I've only scratched the surface. This is turning out to be a good unit.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I brought the Helix with me in the truck and have been playing it through the headphone out and into my truck's head unit front aux input, and I can see why some guys just go with a full range setup. It sounds great. But I would still want to have an actual guitar cab in a band situation. I've also figured out how use some of the routing options and other features, but I've only scratched the surface. This is turning out to be a good unit.

FRFR is a great choice for modeling gear and I was seriously considering it.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I use a FRFR system for my Fractal. I would think if you use any kind of amp or cab modeling with a regular guitar amp, it would sound terrible.

 

[Gone_Shootin]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I use a FRFR system for my Fractal. I would think if you use any kind of amp or cab modeling with a regular guitar amp, it would sound terrible.

Like Johnny said on the first page, it depends on how you use it. The preamp only models into the power section of an amp sound great, and that's where the 4CM comes in. When you do that, you literally put your amp's preamp in an effects loop, and in the case of units such as the Helix, TC Electronic G System, and any of the Axe FX units, you can omit your amp's preamp & replace it with a modeled preamp, or insert it anywhere in the signal chain.

And yeah, cab IRs through a regular guitar cab tend to sound muffled. But you don't have to use them. So......

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I use a FRFR system for my Fractal. I would think if you use any kind of amp or cab modeling with a regular guitar amp, it would sound terrible.

Yeah, if you model an amp and then send it into the front end of another amp, it'll sound terrible, but there are a lot of people who will send their modelers into the power amp and get great results. If you go this way though, just model preamps and no cab sims.

 

[Gone_Shootin]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I'm really loving this thing. I went through the factory presets when I first got it and liked the synth stuff they had setup. So, last night I decided to mess around with them on my own. I ended up setting up a double pitch shift with one note a 5th up and the other an octave up with the mix set at 50%, a compressor in front to help the pitch shifter track better (an old but effective trick), with it all going into the 5150 model. Wow!!! That thing tracked notes flawlessly, provided it didn't ham fist any of them, and it even tracked power chords. I've never had a pitch effect that could do that. And it sounds great!

So, long story short, I ended up playing the main riff from Smoke on the Water for over a half hour with a huge grin on my face and named the patch "John Lord". :banana:

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Can you assign cab IRs to outputs in a Line6 Helix?

I'm really loving this thing. I went through the factory presets when I first got it and liked the synth stuff they had setup. So, last night I decided to mess around with them on my own. I ended up setting up a double pitch shift with one note a 5th up and the other an octave up with the mix set at 50%, a compressor in front to help the pitch shifter track better (an old but effective trick), with it all going into the 5150 model. Wow!!! That thing tracked notes flawlessly, provided it didn't ham fist any of them, and it even tracked power chords. I've never had a pitch effect that could do that. And it sounds great!

So, long story short, I ended up playing the main riff from Smoke on the Water for over a half hour with a huge grin on my face and named the patch "John Lord". :banana:

Lol I love my Helix. I've always been inspired to play and I'll play anywhere from an hour to 2 hours a day, but with the Helix it's like i never want to turn it off.