Cheap MXR ODs
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XSSIVE
OCDologist
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i have all of them along with the GT-OD and here's what you need to know.
the ZW44 came first which is a modded version of the boss SD-1 to better fit Zakk's needs vs the SD-1 he used for years. then based off that the MXR custom shop came up with a few tweaks that make it into a GT-OD. at first they had separate circuit boards but now the GT-OD and ZW-44 share the same circuit board with an internal slider switch that changes between one or the other by adding or removing components from the signal path. so buy one and you actually have both if you want to open it up and slide the switch over.
the Classic Overdrive is the same pedal as the GT-OD with the same internal slider switch to change between it and ZW-44. it was just rebranded from GT-OD for a GC only run.
the Classic Distortion is a whole different animal and it's a renamed Distortion III pedal again for GC only.
i really like the GT-OD and Classic OD (same pedal) i use one with my 3120 and the other with my 5150 and it's beat out a lot of others to get there.
the GT-OD, Classic OD, ZW-44 (and boss SD-1 for that matter) all work real well when stacked into the Classic Distortion too. i use that setup SD-1 into Classic Distortion with my stock '79 JMP and it just kills, makes that amp a flame thrower.
i have all of them along with the GT-OD and here's what you need to know.
the ZW44 came first which is a modded version of the boss SD-1 to better fit Zakk's needs vs the SD-1 he used for years. then based off that the MXR custom shop came up with a few tweaks that make it into a GT-OD. at first they had separate circuit boards but now the GT-OD and ZW-44 share the same circuit board with an internal slider switch that changes between one or the other by adding or removing components from the signal path. so buy one and you actually have both if you want to open it up and slide the switch over.
the Classic Overdrive is the same pedal as the GT-OD with the same internal slider switch to change between it and ZW-44. it was just rebranded from GT-OD for a GC only run.
the Classic Distortion is a whole different animal and it's a renamed Distortion III pedal again for GC only.
i really like the GT-OD and Classic OD (same pedal) i use one with my 3120 and the other with my 5150 and it's beat out a lot of others to get there.
the GT-OD, Classic OD, ZW-44 (and boss SD-1 for that matter) all work real well when stacked into the Classic Distortion too. i use that setup SD-1 into Classic Distortion with my stock '79 JMP and it just kills, makes that amp a flame thrower.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
I bought the Labor Day Classic OD and really dig it.
I just noticed the Classic Distortion for $40 for GC's Black Friday.
I think I'll pick one up, just because I like these MXR's. I don't necessarily need Distortion, but it may make another flavor of gain, when using it dialed back into an overdriven amp.
I bought the Labor Day Classic OD and really dig it.
I just noticed the Classic Distortion for $40 for GC's Black Friday.
I think I'll pick one up, just because I like these MXR's. I don't necessarily need Distortion, but it may make another flavor of gain, when using it dialed back into an overdriven amp.
Richard
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Re: Cheap MXR ODs
I just bought a classic overdrive about a week ago and then modified it with a mini on/on switch so I could switch it on the fly... Well it sounded so bad on both settings I just sold it. Stock sounded the best but it was just way to noisy and bad sounding. The other setting was thin, harsh and still noisy. I'll never buy another mxr pedal. You get what you pay for.
I just bought a classic overdrive about a week ago and then modified it with a mini on/on switch so I could switch it on the fly... Well it sounded so bad on both settings I just sold it. Stock sounded the best but it was just way to noisy and bad sounding. The other setting was thin, harsh and still noisy. I'll never buy another mxr pedal. You get what you pay for.
misterwhizzy
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Re: Cheap MXR ODs
I understand first impressions are a big deal, but the Carbon Copy is wonderful. I had almost the opposite impression. I love MXR and Dunlop stuff.
I understand first impressions are a big deal, but the Carbon Copy is wonderful. I had almost the opposite impression. I love MXR and Dunlop stuff.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
I like how MXR circuits are the bare minimum for what's necessary to makes it's sound. I know that there's a bunch of boutique pedals for $200 that may sound better, but better is just another flavor.
If you've got a bunch of amps, it's fun to grab these cheap but good OD/Dist pedals, just to see how they all react to different amps. Sometimes, you come up with surprisingly great tones.
I like how MXR circuits are the bare minimum for what's necessary to makes it's sound. I know that there's a bunch of boutique pedals for $200 that may sound better, but better is just another flavor.
If you've got a bunch of amps, it's fun to grab these cheap but good OD/Dist pedals, just to see how they all react to different amps. Sometimes, you come up with surprisingly great tones.
Richard
New member
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
Yes the carbon copy is an awesome pedal. I used one on my board for a while before getting a wampler analog echo. I do like the tone knob on analog delays. Mxr did hit a home run on that one and the script phase 90 and I'm sure there are others I haven't tried. But I ment I'll never try another mxr dirt box. I use a classic 100 amp and it loves pedals. The classic overdrive on both settings sounded like garbage. But the only other TS type pedal I have now to compare it to is my Emma stinkbug and it is (to me) far superior then anything on the market that is modeled after a TS. It's actually been called the tube screamer to end all tube screamers. So that may be why I didn't like it.
Yes the carbon copy is an awesome pedal. I used one on my board for a while before getting a wampler analog echo. I do like the tone knob on analog delays. Mxr did hit a home run on that one and the script phase 90 and I'm sure there are others I haven't tried. But I ment I'll never try another mxr dirt box. I use a classic 100 amp and it loves pedals. The classic overdrive on both settings sounded like garbage. But the only other TS type pedal I have now to compare it to is my Emma stinkbug and it is (to me) far superior then anything on the market that is modeled after a TS. It's actually been called the tube screamer to end all tube screamers. So that may be why I didn't like it.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
Well, I hit both GC and Sam Ash this morning. GC's Classic Distortion was sold out, and when I got to Sam Ash, I grabbed the last Zakk Wylde OD for $30.
First impression is that the Classic OD is slightly thicker in the mids, a bit softer in the lows, and the highs may be a bit less sizzley than the Zakk OD.
The Zakk OD sounds a tad more metal, tighter in the lows, neutral mids, and slightly crunchier highs.
The only thing I know about the Classic Distortion is what I've seen in the 2 youtube clips.
Well, I hit both GC and Sam Ash this morning. GC's Classic Distortion was sold out, and when I got to Sam Ash, I grabbed the last Zakk Wylde OD for $30.
First impression is that the Classic OD is slightly thicker in the mids, a bit softer in the lows, and the highs may be a bit less sizzley than the Zakk OD.
The Zakk OD sounds a tad more metal, tighter in the lows, neutral mids, and slightly crunchier highs.
The only thing I know about the Classic Distortion is what I've seen in the 2 youtube clips.
XSSIVE
OCDologist
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
both the classic OD (GT-OD) and ZW-44 work best IMO not into a clean amp but into an amp that's like a JMP or JCM800 that's set up for some classic rock or perhaps a bit more gain than that even to then push it to 80s metal territory (that's how i use it with my JMP).
they also shine when used with a high gain amp with the level up and drive down on the pedal to shape and saturate the tone while tightening up the low end, that's how i use them with my 3120 and 5150.
none of them are amazingly impressive into clean amps used as distortion pedals. the classic distortion is ok with this but within reason. if you dime the distortion it sounds like a pedal. if you use a bit more level than gain it sounds more natural.
the combo of the ZW-44 (Classic OD or GT-OD or SD-1) into the Classic Distortion with the distortion just hardly on will take that same JMP or JCM from 80s metal with just the OD on to more of a metallica kill 'em all esq gain.
it's all about moderation and stacking with them. if you crank it into a clean amp it just won't work all that well. if you use them to further shape a base tone that has some gain to it already or lots of gain to shape it more they work real well.
both the classic OD (GT-OD) and ZW-44 work best IMO not into a clean amp but into an amp that's like a JMP or JCM800 that's set up for some classic rock or perhaps a bit more gain than that even to then push it to 80s metal territory (that's how i use it with my JMP).
they also shine when used with a high gain amp with the level up and drive down on the pedal to shape and saturate the tone while tightening up the low end, that's how i use them with my 3120 and 5150.
none of them are amazingly impressive into clean amps used as distortion pedals. the classic distortion is ok with this but within reason. if you dime the distortion it sounds like a pedal. if you use a bit more level than gain it sounds more natural.
the combo of the ZW-44 (Classic OD or GT-OD or SD-1) into the Classic Distortion with the distortion just hardly on will take that same JMP or JCM from 80s metal with just the OD on to more of a metallica kill 'em all esq gain.
it's all about moderation and stacking with them. if you crank it into a clean amp it just won't work all that well. if you use them to further shape a base tone that has some gain to it already or lots of gain to shape it more they work real well.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
i have 9 different overdrive pedals (i know- its a compulsion).....and the classic overdrive is one of the best.
i have 9 different overdrive pedals (i know- its a compulsion).....and the classic overdrive is one of the best.
super rad stuff
Skaforlifeologist
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i love this thread.
i've got the classic OD and the classic Dist. and love'em both, though i haven't had the distortion on the board for a while mainly because i've since switched over to a footpedal for my valveking to go to it's onboard dirt channel.
i love this thread.
i've got the classic OD and the classic Dist. and love'em both, though i haven't had the distortion on the board for a while mainly because i've since switched over to a footpedal for my valveking to go to it's onboard dirt channel.
misterwhizzy
Well-known member
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
Can you tell me a little more about this? If I open it up, will the slider be obvious? I tend to like TS-type overdrive more than asymmetrical clipping, so this might be the way to go for me.
Can you tell me a little more about this? If I open it up, will the slider be obvious? I tend to like TS-type overdrive more than asymmetrical clipping, so this might be the way to go for me.
XSSIVE
OCDologist
Re: Cheap MXR ODs
you have to actually open it up, then pop off the knobs and remove every pot and switch nut and the jacks on it and the board pops right out real easy. then flip it over and you see this...
not my pic...
the switch is on the top left. however it is set on the pedal you own is the stock setting. slide it the other way and you get the other pedal since it adds or removes components from the circuit.
they hide it on the top side of the board because we're really not supposed to know about it since you pretty much get 2 pedals for 1 price if you're willing to open it up or even mod it for an external toggle.
some guys have posted that they bent a paper clip in some way to be able to get to the slider switch without even taking more than the back plate off the pedal. i never tried this but i guess it could work if you're too lazy to crack it open lol.
also this won't work for older GT-OD or ZW-44 pedals since the switch is fairly new. my GT-OD doesn't have the switch since i got it when they first came out, but my newer Classic OD does have it.
you have to actually open it up, then pop off the knobs and remove every pot and switch nut and the jacks on it and the board pops right out real easy. then flip it over and you see this...
not my pic...
the switch is on the top left. however it is set on the pedal you own is the stock setting. slide it the other way and you get the other pedal since it adds or removes components from the circuit.
they hide it on the top side of the board because we're really not supposed to know about it since you pretty much get 2 pedals for 1 price if you're willing to open it up or even mod it for an external toggle.
some guys have posted that they bent a paper clip in some way to be able to get to the slider switch without even taking more than the back plate off the pedal. i never tried this but i guess it could work if you're too lazy to crack it open lol.
also this won't work for older GT-OD or ZW-44 pedals since the switch is fairly new. my GT-OD doesn't have the switch since i got it when they first came out, but my newer Classic OD does have it.
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Funkfingers
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As a teenager, I loved the original mustard yellow MXR Distortion Plus. I eventually sold it. Eventually, the buyer admitted that it was getting virtually no playing and let me have it back for a very modest fee.
As a teenager, I loved the original mustard yellow MXR Distortion Plus. I eventually sold it. Eventually, the buyer admitted that it was getting virtually no playing and let me have it back for a very modest fee.
metlking
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Re: Cheap MXR ODs
Awesome! Thanks for the info! When mine gets here I'm sure I won't be able to resist opening it up to flip the switch! I'll probably mod it in some way. Either a hole in the top to access the switch or an external toggle of some sort.
you have to actually open it up, then pop off the knobs and remove every pot and switch nut and the jacks on it and the board pops right out real easy. then flip it over and you see this...
not my pic...
the switch is on the top left. however it is set on the pedal you own is the stock setting. slide it the other way and you get the other pedal since it adds or removes components from the circuit.
they hide it on the top side of the board because we're really not supposed to know about it since you pretty much get 2 pedals for 1 price if you're willing to open it up or even mod it for an external toggle.
some guys have posted that they bent a paper clip in some way to be able to get to the slider switch without even taking more than the back plate off the pedal. i never tried this but i guess it could work if you're too lazy to crack it open lol.
also this won't work for older GT-OD or ZW-44 pedals since the switch is fairly new. my GT-OD doesn't have the switch since i got it when they first came out, but my newer Classic OD does have it.
Awesome! Thanks for the info! When mine gets here I'm sure I won't be able to resist opening it up to flip the switch! I'll probably mod it in some way. Either a hole in the top to access the switch or an external toggle of some sort.
misterwhizzy
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Re: Cheap MXR ODs
Thanks for that, XSsive. Your Google-Fu out-fued my laziness.
Thanks for that, XSsive. Your Google-Fu out-fued my laziness.