Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

[Mephis]

Re: Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

:laugh2: That. Is a good post. I like the Peter Green mod a lot actually definatly changes the neck pickups tone a lot(for the better, in my opinion)

I personally love Gibsons, I love SG's, Firebirds and Flying V's the most and like Les Pauls. I love gibsons, but the truth of the matter is. You have to work to find a good one these days, in most situations you will play 3 or 4(and thats giving Gibson some slack) crappy Gibsons before you find a good one.

1st one I picked up was perfect in tone, just needed a setup because someone messed with the bridge screws.

The nut also needed broke in.

Once all that was taken care of, It has been great ever since. Everyone I know thinks it's my best sounding guitar.


I'm not ragging on his guitar, I'm ragging on the guy trying to tell people that a $200-$400 guitar is better, in general, than a $2300 standard. (That is unless I'm mistaking heritage for something else.)

 

[Little Robert]

Re: Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

Unfortunately I didn't pay attention/look for it.

 

[JeffB]

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(That is unless I'm mistaking heritage for something else.)

You are.

They are the former Gibson Kalamzoo guys. In general they make good stuff, but after playing a bunch and owning one, I cannot say I'm a fan.

That said , LR's is prolly the prettiest 150 I've seen. Congrats!

 

[SpeedDemon]

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1st one I picked up was perfect in tone, just needed a setup because someone messed with the bridge screws.

The nut also needed broke in.

Once all that was taken care of, It has been great ever since. Everyone I know thinks it's my best sounding guitar.


I'm not ragging on his guitar, I'm ragging on the guy trying to tell people that a $200-$400 guitar is better, in general, than a $2300 standard. (That is unless I'm mistaking heritage for something else.)

I have played some Gibsons that rocked and were the first ones I picked up. But it doesnt always happen that way. And as for a Heritage being 200-400$, I think you might want to look that up.

 

[Little Robert]

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I'm not ragging on his guitar, I'm ragging on the guy trying to tell people that a $200-$400 guitar is better, in general, than a $2300 standard. (That is unless I'm mistaking heritage for something else.)

You are thinking of another maker. Heritage gits are made in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, Mich (Made in USA). It's owned/started up by exGibson Employees who did not want to move to Nashville when Gibson moved their manufacturing to Nashville.

Supposedly some of the original employees and original Gibson tooling are used in the making of these guitars. There's a lot of hand work in their making.

They have a nitro laquer finish just like the old ones.
This one has honduran mohagony, and they have solid curly maple tops.

They sell for around $1,400 - $1,600 approx, depending on PUs and hardware (you actually have a choice)

Mine has seth lover PUs, which are supposedly wound on the original machine Gibson used to make PAFs - Acquired by Seymour Duncan at some point. And weighs a hair over 9lbs.

So, to me, this is as close as I can get to an original LP standard without forking over huge bucks for a really nice historic. I prefer this guitar to current production LP standards - but that's just me.

And so there you have it!

 

[Tux789]

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okay, gotta ask, whats the "Peter Green mod"?

 

[SpeedDemon]

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okay, gotta ask, whats the "Peter Green mod"?

"The neck pickup on his guitar was magnetically out of phase to create this sound, which happened accidentally when Green took the guitar apart and put it together with the neck pickup inserted the wrong way round."

Correct me if I am wrong, someone.

 

[Tux789]

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"The neck pickup on his guitar was magnetically out of phase to create this sound, which happened accidentally when Green took the guitar apart and put it together with the neck pickup inserted the wrong way round."

Correct me if I am wrong, someone.

by "wrong way around" do you mean that the screw coil faces the bridge instead of the neck?

 

[SpeedDemon]

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by "wrong way around" do you mean that the screw coil faces the bridge instead of the neck?

Yes, direction would be the same as the bridge pickup. As opposed to opposite it.

 

[Little Robert]

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Here you go, from Seymour's frequently asked questions section:

71. What did Peter Green do to his Humbuckers to give him his sound and does he still have his old Les Paul that he used in early recording with Fleetwood Mac? Jeff Ross, Hollywood, Ca
This question has come up a lot lately. What Peter Green did was pretty easy to do. First the neck pickup is out of phase with the bridge pickup. To do this the cover was removed from the Humbucking Pickup, the screws loosened and the Alnico bar magnet was pull out and flipped over 180? degrees and put back in place. The screws that were loosened need to be firmly tightened or you will have extra feedback problems. The magnet should be pulled out on the opposite end where the lead and hookup wires are attached and soldered. When putting the pickup back in the mounting ring, you need to reverse the angle of the ring. When you put the pickup back into the routed cavity the adjustable screws will face the bridge and the studs (under the cover) will face the neck. The stud side of the bobbin has a slightly higher magnetic field than the adjustable side. This is because the adjustable screws extend out the bottom of the pickup and loose some of the magnetic field to the strings. Peter's old Les Paul is now owned by Gary Moore another great guitarist from England. Peter was born on October 29, 1946. Peter took Eric Clapton's place in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers around July of 1966, and in June of 1967 left the Bluesbreakers to help form Fleetwood Mac. Eric Clapton left to form Cream with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker. Trying finding and listening to John Mayall albums as he had great guitarist working and recording with him similar to "The Yardbirds" (Clapton, Beck, & Page). Besides Clapton and Green other great guitarist have worked with John such as Rick Vito and currently Coco Montoya.

 

[LesStrat]

Re: Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

Where can I get a $200 Heritage? I'll take two.

 

[Mephis]

Re: Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

You are thinking of another maker. Heritage gits are made in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, Mich (Made in USA). It's owned/started up by exGibson Employees who did not want to move to Nashville when Gibson moved their manufacturing to Nashville.

Supposedly some of the original employees and original Gibson tooling are used in the making of these guitars. There's a lot of hand work in their making.

They have a nitro laquer finish just like the old ones.
This one has honduran mohagony, and they have solid curly maple tops.

They sell for around $1,400 - $1,600 approx, depending on PUs and hardware (you actually have a choice)

Mine has seth lover PUs, which are supposedly wound on the original machine Gibson used to make PAFs - Acquired by Seymour Duncan at some point. And weighs a hair over 9lbs.

So, to me, this is as close as I can get to an original LP standard without forking over huge bucks for a really nice historic. I prefer this guitar to current production LP standards - but that's just me.

And so there you have it!

Ah, than it probably kicks a gibsons ass.

I must have been thinking about agiles. Lol sorry than, I just get tired of every thread having someone say "That blows a gibson away."

 

[Little Robert]

Re: Check out my new Heritage H150 (Les Paul Style Git)

Ah, than it probably kicks a gibsons ass.

I know mine does, but not all of them

 

[Mike M.]

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I've read where some folks have said that while some Heritage models are LP designs they don't sound like LP's. Not as full sounding. I've never played a Heritage so I can't agree or disagree with that. Do the Heritage LP's have their own thing going?

 

[Little Robert]

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I've read where some folks have said that while some Heritage models are LP designs they don't sound like LP's. Not as full sounding. I've never played a Heritage so I can't agree or disagree with that. Do the Heritage LP's have their own thing going?

It's a Les Paul... same wood, same thickness of body wood etc. It's not different, like a PRS compared to a Les Paul. The neck is different and I don't know about the fingerboard radious, but other than that and the shape of the headstock it is a Les Paul.

Heritage did make some variants (discontinued as far as I know) on the LP with thinner bodies, and those do sound different.

SO, a Heritage Model H150 is a Les Paul. I'm sure someone's going to bark at me, but whatever - the differences don't relate to tone or palyability, and that's what I'm most concerned with.