Check out this amp idea!

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presa_tito

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I have no clue whether or not for sure this is a great amp, but the concept behind it is really good. Read up about it on the site. It's for amp modelers to sound more "real" like tube amps. Does anyone know of aybody know anything about this company. I want to have a million tones from one amp, yet retain the tube sound. This looks like the best thing to that. What do you think? This guy's credentials look pretty impressive. Check out the artists he has worked with.http://www.atomicamps.com/products.html The only thing that I'm really wondering is how this will differ that much from just using a vetta amp. How will it be better through this atomic than the vetta?
 
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I'm so glad this idea was spawned by an amp genious like Harry Kolbe, the "Soundsmith" This is the idea everyone's had since modelers came out.

I have to admit that I can get some pretty realistic tones from my Vox Valvetronix AD60 head through a good 2-12 or 4-12, but what modeling amps lack is fatness and touch responsiveness. As long as digital preamps are fed into SS amps, that will be the case. You can get the sounds, but you can't get the tube amp tone, because it sounds a lot narrower than a tube signal path. That's why I think this idea will blow away the Vetta or Vox. If Harry Kolbe is able to create a tube head that fits the POD Pro XT in it, he'll have something I'd want. It looks like his combo cabinetry is far better than the particle board or cheap plywood that all modeling amp companies still use, to cut cost. I believe that a preamp can be non tube, but the power section MUST be tube, if it's to sound as good as the best tube amps. The versatility will be unsurpassable. I'd keep my mind open to this new way of thinking.
 
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that looks VERY cool.... i'm suprised no one else has done this before.
 
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Very interesting concept - plug in your guitar and then look for the controls :duh: :22: , well they are'nt any, it will confuse guitar players no end :smack: .

Of course you then have to additionally buy the modeller (PodXt?) as well , so is it going to be a realsitic proposition or another failure? I hope that we can see this, but the cost is going to be expensive!!
 
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I'm not sure I get what the inovation is here.
Take your favorite amp modeler, and run it into any tube amp, with all the controls set for clean. Then do your "tone" adjustments on the modeler box.

Is that it? :22:

Edit: Also, it seems to me that this might be one of those areas where a good SS amp would fill the bill better, or at least, just as good. I might have to do a little experiment. I've got an old Crown D-150A lying around. Maybe I'll build it into a cabinet with a couple of 12's, and a nice slot to fit my J-Station, and see how it compares - soundwise.
 
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Yes, that's why I posted. I don't get why this tube amp will be better than a pod through a different tube amp. Gearjonser, can you explain for me? I guess somehow this atomic amp is specially designed for this job, but how???
 
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presa_tito said:
Yes, that's why I posted. I don't get why this tube amp will be better than a pod through a different tube amp. Gearjonser, can you explain for me? I guess somehow this atomic amp is specially designed for this job, but how???
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regular amps have preamp and power amp sections that color the sound... the problem with the pod going through many a tube amp power-section is the power amp will color the sound. Many solid state power amps give a cleaner sound, but with no tube it's sterile...

the thing with this amp is you're trying to get a warmer sound, a little tube sag, but nothing that changes the sound you're trying to go for...
 
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UCSDBoy said:
regular amps have preamp and power amp sections that color the sound... the problem with the pod going through many a tube amp power-section is the power amp will color the sound. Many solid state power amps give a cleaner sound, but with no tube it's sterile...

the thing with this amp is you're trying to get a warmer sound, a little tube sag, but nothing that changes the sound you're trying to go for...
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ahh, I see. Sounds great. I will have to wait and see what these cost to decide if they're worth getting. I'm pretty sure this guy will have concocoted something good if he precedes his reputation.
 
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its deinfitely been done b4. when i had a POD a few yrs back, i ran it into tube power amps. defintely warmed it up. great thig to have on the market, especially in combo form.

germ
 
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From looking at the tubes in it I would guess the 12ax7 is used for a tube preamp that feeds into the POD. You could probable do the same thing by getting something like this http://www.behringer.com/MIC100/index.cfm?lang=ENG and running it between your guitar and POD and then going out to a tube poweramp and speaker cabs. Although having everything in one package would be simpler to setup.
 
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I hope Tech 21 Jumps on this bandwagon. I could never understand why
the company that pioneered tube Amp modeling built S.S. amps ??
You can get so close with a Sans Amp, But you not fooling anybody!!
The square wave transister sound still wins. :blackeye: I would
go one step further and add a tube recitofirer. To get a little sag.
I've still not gotten into the pod thing. I'll have to check into them.
But for now I'm content w/t my sans amp. :)
 
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At home, mostly due to noise restrictions, I use the Vox Valvetronix AD60 head on the Bogner large 2-12. I've got it dialed in for all the Fender, Vox, Marshall, and Mesa tones. Since the concept of the Vox is that they took a tiny 12ax7 driven power section, and mated it to a big SS power section, you get the touch responsiveness and tubey character going to your speakers.

I actually pulled out the stock Sovtek 12AX7A and replaced it with the better sounding Sovtek 12AX7 LPS. I actually can tell a difference in the tone, but only slightly.
Now that I've got a small handful of those new GT 12AX7M's (Mullard copy), I may pop one of those into my modeling amp. I'd be really happy if it improved the tone, further.
 
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.....I don't know, it seems like it would be easier to actually make an all tube amp that duplicates the circuits found in amps rather than trying to give "life" to a digital modeler which doesn't sound anything like what it's trying to copy....seems like technology trying to recreate what is really easy to create in the first place.....

Jeff Seal
 
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You may be right there, but as best as I can tell...it's a tube power amp (would need to be stereo) somewhere along the lines of Mesa 50/50...and they ain't exactly cheap. The thing is I build amps that duplicate exacly the original circuits and the preamp parts are about as much as a POD, the tones aren't modeled they're exact...(it's nowhere near as hard as what you might think!) but it ain't MIDI controllable...
Of course, then again I've managed to get by without MIDI in my amps for quite some time, and mine are more versatile than most.... I don't know, the whole modeling thing may pan out quite nicely...I guess we'll see.....
Jeff Seal
 
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