Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Swampy

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I'm interested in a LP that someone is selling locally. What are tell tale signs of a fake? What should I look for? I haven't talked to the guy yet, but if I get a chance tomorrow I may call him and go check it out. He didn't list much about it, other than the SD Distortion in the bridge.

He's asking $600

 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Usually, the first thing people look at is the binding (obviously doesn't work for this guitar.) The inlays are usually a dead giveaway. Gibson uses mother of pearl on most of their guitars, while most Chinese ripoffs use pearloid mother-of-toilet-seat. It's very easy to spot because real MOP is sharp and shiny while MOTS is usually dull. Another really easy one is checking the electronics cavity. The cavity should be neatly-routed with 4 rounded corners and the wires should be neat as well. Another thing is that Gibson for the most part DOESN'T use conductive paint inside their guitars. So if you look inside the cavity, and it's crudely painted black, it's most likely fake. Finally, ALWAYS take note of the serial number. The internet is a great thing, just google "Gibson serial number search" and you should find out if it's real or not pretty quickly.

That's all I could think of. There are thousands minute details to find that out, but I covered some of the big ones.
 
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Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Thanks man!
My Samick LP copy has the fake inlays, so I know the dull you speak of.
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Bridge studs are usually the 1st thing I look at.

Can't really go wrong running the S/N...

Good Luck!
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

There's a lot of good info online, but some other things to check is make sure the bridge is the right spacing, and take note of the knob placement. Most fakes use cheap import bridges that are the wrong spacing, or the knobs aren't in the exact spots they should be.

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Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

A bit off topic, but is it my imagination or does that photo show the first fret is mounted cockeyed?
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

The truss rod. Most chinese copies use allen wrench truss rods, Gibson does NOT use allen wrench rods.
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Headstock angle, fakes tend to be shallower ( if the headstock has been broken and repaired it's definitely a Gibson!)
Remove the truss rod cover Gibsons have some space between the nut and where the truss rod cavity begins, guitars from the 'epi' factories have their cavities beginning where the nut ends.
Remove the control cavity Gibsons are neater, fakes tend to have additional tooling marks to facilitate short shaft pots
I'm think there's a thread on mylespaul which is quite extensive, if you can't find it post back here and I'll post some links.
(BTW some fakes can be quite good guitars)
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

I will. I'm not sure I'll be able to see it today though. Work has me swamped.
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

A bit off topic, but is it my imagination or does that photo show the first fret is mounted cockeyed?

To my eye, it's the first three or four frets, including the block inlay - also, the Gibson logo seems too close to the edge of the headstock - both could be a photo/angle artifact, of course. Best of luck.


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Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

I just spoke to the guy and he gave me the serial#.



Was hoping he'd be into some kind of trade, but he's looking for cash. I may be putting my Mesa 5:25 up for sale. I haven't plugged into the thing for at least 6 months.
 
Re: Checking legitimacy of a Les Paul.

Hardshell case. And it's a Dimarzio SD, not a SD Distortion. Not that it matters much.
 
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