Chinese Clones Copying Chinese Clones...Interesting!

I think they're all run by folk that are related (at least by marriage). I know for a fact that the Mooer owner's wife owns/runs Joyo..

(...or the Joyo owner's wife runs Mooer :p)

Anyway, it's one of the two..
 
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I think they're all run by folk that are related (at least by marriage). I know for a fact that the Mooer owner's wife owns/runs Joyo..

(...or the Joyo owner's wife runs Mooer :p)

Anyway, it's one of the two..

Husband and wife owning "competing" companies?

That's just a trick to avoid getting collectively sued or collectively collected on if one company falls into debt or regulatory trouble.
 
Ok, I got the Horse "Zip Amp" in...

On the outside, it looks decent, but looks are truly deceiving. This thing has NOTHING on the Joyo when it comes to build quality!

The pots are cheap, the knobs are cheap, and the Comp switch on the Horse doesn't feel nearly as solid as the Joyo. The bottom of the case is painted steel on the Horse, while it's nicely anodized aluminum (in and out) on the Joyo. The internal parts are sparse on the Horse and it definitely uses different components than the Joyo. Even the power plug is different, probably cheaper.

The only thing that *suggests* these might come from the same family is the printing on the baseplate. Other than that, there is nothing on the Horse that is up to par with the Joyo R-series.

I glanced inside my Caline "Orange Burst" and it uses the same pots as the Joyo, despite being the least expensive and cheapest "feeling" of the 3. That said, all 3 PCB's are VERY different in terms of layout and number of components.

I haven't plugged them all in yet to compare, but here are some pics of the Joyo build quality compared to the Horse:

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Ok, I just spent an hour or so comparing the 3 pedals (Joyo Zip Amp, Horse Zip Amp, Caline Orange Burst) playing different styles and with varying levels of gain. Here are my thoughts after a fairly thorough knob tweaking session...

Joyo wins for refinement of sound. It's just so natural in its response and the drive sound with the gain up, as well as the boost tone with the gain down, are really, really nice. It's harmonically rich and reasonably tight, though the bottom can get a bit loose when the bass is dialed up. The comp switch in the middle position is a bit weird and makes it spikey and brighter sounding, a little harsh even. Switched all the way into "comp" mode, though, it's an "ok" compression effect. I strongly prefer the response of the Joyo in "Normal" mode and would pretty much only use this pedal that way. That said, the Joyo is easily the most "amp-like" of the 3 and sounds and feels like a "professional" level pedal for sure.

The Caline is very similar to the Joyo, but not as refined. Still, it's a rocker and crazy good for being one of the lowest cost overdrive pedals you can buy anywhere! The low end is bouncy and lively, but not as tight as I would like. The top end is punchy, but has a subtle roundness to it that gets crisper as you dig in. The gain is higher at nearly every setting compared to the Joyo, but it still cleans up great with the gain all the way down and works reasonably well as a clean boost. The Caline produces a tiny bit more noise due to the extra gain on tap (I wasn't running a noise gate), but very reasonable for a pedal that goes from nearly completely clean to medium-high gain territory with ease. It has a lot of tonal range and I found the Caline to be the most sensitive to knob adjustments.

The Horse, despite hiding very cheap components inside its attractive case, is surprisingly capable. I will say it's the only one of the 3 that really "sounds like a pedal" if that makes sense, but the voicing is definitely in the ballpark of the other orange boxes, if not just a bit more forward in the midrange. The bottom end is tighter than the other two, but you have to dial the bass close to max to really come close to the low end thunder the other 2 achieve at the 3 'o-clock position. The Horse is in no way as harmonically rich as the others, especially the Joyo, but it's also not as busy sounding as a result. It's fairly clear and has the response of a proper distortion pedal with the tonality of the other 2 thrown in. The compression effect is actually very effective and I was surprised how fun the pedal was with the gain down, the volume up, and the compression turned on. As a clean-ish boost, it sounds a lot less boxy and might be fun paired with some dynamic single coils.

So...
  • Dynamics: Joyo > Caline > Horse
  • Build Quality: Joyo > Caline/Horse
  • Gain: Caline > Horse > Joyo
  • Noise Levels: Joyo > Caline/Horse
  • Tightness: Horse > Joyo > Caline
  • Compression: Horse > Joyo > Caline (note: the Caline does not have switchable compression)
Best Value Overall: Joyo > Caline > Horse
 
The Chinese really make our life easier and cheaper...lol. You could probably acquire the entire line of Joyo with a price of a Strymon. I'm gonna get me the Uzi; it's black, metal and under 50 bucks.

 
I have owned about two hundred different pedals in my life, and the only one that has ever actually broken was my Carl Martin PlexiTone, which I sent back for repair. It was a lot cheaper than buying another one. Mostly it has just been footswitches that get flaky on some of my old 1990s Ibanez and DOD pedals.

I've had to replace the momentary switches on four different boss pedals in my life. I tend to buy used though, and usually several years old.
 
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