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Whistlepig
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I have a mg 250 dfx. Any suggestions on a affects pedal that would give it a different dynamic in a classic rock to metal sound? Any input will be helpfull.
thanks.
thanks.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: classic rock to metal
Boss DS-1.
Boss DS-1.
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TrippyVinylologist
Re: classic rock to metal
Tonebone Hot British?
Tonebone Hot British?
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heymcz
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Re: classic rock to metal
Maxon SD-9.
Maxon SD-9.
Metalman_666
Well-known member
Re: classic rock to metal
I tried the Mega Distortion extensively and thought it sounded like crap. I'm surprised to hear you liked it so much!
The Metal Zone is far better IMO, and it works wonders but only for heavier distortion sounds... classic rock is doable but not the best.
I tried the Mega Distortion extensively and thought it sounded like crap. I'm surprised to hear you liked it so much!
The Metal Zone is far better IMO, and it works wonders but only for heavier distortion sounds... classic rock is doable but not the best.
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: classic rock to metal
i'd say get a different amp if it's doable
metalzones are junk
the amp you got should be able to do metal, maybe check out the new duncan pedal for classic rock, the twin tube
tweak fuzz could prolly get you there too, depending on what you're defining as the classic rock sound
i'd say get a different amp if it's doable
metalzones are junk
the amp you got should be able to do metal, maybe check out the new duncan pedal for classic rock, the twin tube
tweak fuzz could prolly get you there too, depending on what you're defining as the classic rock sound
baritone
Well-known member
Re: classic rock to metal
Whistle, since you have a solid state amp, this might be interesting to try:
A pedal such as the DigiTech Death Metal or the Grunge might give you what you want. These pedals have really high levels of distortion, which are thought to be uncontrollable. The gain knob on the Grunge doesn't really do much, and the Death Metal doesn't even have one. But compared to Boss distortions, these sound smoother to me, and they have awesome EQ knobs, which really affect the overall sound. And the trick to controlling the gain levels with these pedals is to use your guitar's volume knob. Who would have thought that the Death Metal can be used for anything other than a bad death metal-like tone?
You're one of the few people I have heard of liking the Metal Zone. It is actually one of my favorites, but I think it is better at so many styles other than metal. With the gain up, it is best for hard rock rhythm styles, but I like to keep the gain down and wrestle with the EQ knobs. The DS-1 is much better suited as a lead guitar pedal. Both of these have that characteristic Boss graininess, which many people hate, but I really like. To me, the Mega Distortion combines the capabilities of both, but the overall tone is smoother.Metalman_666 said:
Whistle, since you have a solid state amp, this might be interesting to try:
A pedal such as the DigiTech Death Metal or the Grunge might give you what you want. These pedals have really high levels of distortion, which are thought to be uncontrollable. The gain knob on the Grunge doesn't really do much, and the Death Metal doesn't even have one. But compared to Boss distortions, these sound smoother to me, and they have awesome EQ knobs, which really affect the overall sound. And the trick to controlling the gain levels with these pedals is to use your guitar's volume knob. Who would have thought that the Death Metal can be used for anything other than a bad death metal-like tone?
Closed Eye
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Re: classic rock to metal
Are you not using the amp distortion? Or are you asking for something to supplament the amps distortion? The old school DOD Grunge pedals did spot-on Metallica and Tool tones and I'm sure the new ones will do. Keep them stuck in the middle of the EQ, maybe a little over, and they're way easy to control. I'd steer clear of the Death Metal 'cause it's too ice-picky for the amp and the MG, or mine anyway, doesn't take too kindly to the DS-1 either. I own an MG250DFX and I've never had any problems getting crazy-ass metal tones on it though, so, I dunno.
baritone said:
Are you not using the amp distortion? Or are you asking for something to supplament the amps distortion? The old school DOD Grunge pedals did spot-on Metallica and Tool tones and I'm sure the new ones will do. Keep them stuck in the middle of the EQ, maybe a little over, and they're way easy to control. I'd steer clear of the Death Metal 'cause it's too ice-picky for the amp and the MG, or mine anyway, doesn't take too kindly to the DS-1 either. I own an MG250DFX and I've never had any problems getting crazy-ass metal tones on it though, so, I dunno.
FamousForSustain
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Re: classic rock to metal
+1
Nice to hear the Grunge box get mentioned without the word "crap" in the same sentence. Frankly, though, I wouldn't use it for classic rock even with the gain rolled back (I swear, I must have the only Grunge ever made with a functioning gain knob, even though it's range isn't what you'd call dramatic) and I wouldn't use the Death Metal for anything other than slaying dragons or cutting down trees. Either one would certainly yield a different dynamic from the MG though, provided it got along with them. That's the thing, some amps just don't like certain pedals, so make sure you test drive whatever you wind up looking at on an MG.
baritone said:
+1
Nice to hear the Grunge box get mentioned without the word "crap" in the same sentence. Frankly, though, I wouldn't use it for classic rock even with the gain rolled back (I swear, I must have the only Grunge ever made with a functioning gain knob, even though it's range isn't what you'd call dramatic) and I wouldn't use the Death Metal for anything other than slaying dragons or cutting down trees. Either one would certainly yield a different dynamic from the MG though, provided it got along with them. That's the thing, some amps just don't like certain pedals, so make sure you test drive whatever you wind up looking at on an MG.
jdier
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Re: classic rock to metal
I would throw the Keeley Tube Screamer into consideration. One of the best sounding pedals I have ever owned. Might be a little too tame for Metal though.
http://robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=5
Whistlepig said:
I would throw the Keeley Tube Screamer into consideration. One of the best sounding pedals I have ever owned. Might be a little too tame for Metal though.
http://robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=5
baritone
Well-known member
Re: classic rock to metal
Keeley's mods are phenominal, but there's really no use in getting them with a solid state amp. Even a stock Tube Screamer might be less than satisfying with the MG amp, unless mixed with amp distortion. When using one of my overdrives with my solid state amp, I either place a rock distortion after it or place an EQ or clean boost before it. But trying out pedals with your own gear or with similar gear will give you the best idea.
I was born in Milwaukee, an I lived there until 1992.
Keeley's mods are phenominal, but there's really no use in getting them with a solid state amp. Even a stock Tube Screamer might be less than satisfying with the MG amp, unless mixed with amp distortion. When using one of my overdrives with my solid state amp, I either place a rock distortion after it or place an EQ or clean boost before it. But trying out pedals with your own gear or with similar gear will give you the best idea.
I was born in Milwaukee, an I lived there until 1992.
jdier
New member
Re: classic rock to metal
All the amps I play through are tube (champ, twin, mesa boogie) but I have plugged the pedal in to a Peavey Bandit and a Crate Twin Classic (which I think is SS) and it is still a decent sounding pedal. It does seem to sound best through a tube amp, but it is not useless through a SS.
I am living outside of Milwaukee now, about 1/2 way to West Bend.
baritone said:
All the amps I play through are tube (champ, twin, mesa boogie) but I have plugged the pedal in to a Peavey Bandit and a Crate Twin Classic (which I think is SS) and it is still a decent sounding pedal. It does seem to sound best through a tube amp, but it is not useless through a SS.
I am living outside of Milwaukee now, about 1/2 way to West Bend.
Christobevii3
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Re: classic rock to metal
Just get two cheap pedals. Bad monkey = pure classic rock
And then a metal pedal that suits you.
Just get two cheap pedals. Bad monkey = pure classic rock
And then a metal pedal that suits you.
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Whistlepig
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Re: classic rock to metal
Thanks for input. The reason I ask is I got a digi-df-7 but the only setting worth a crap is 6 to me. You can hear each note a lot better than the amps overdrive itself. I was surprised at that it was night and day difference with this particular amp.
I'll get the mzone and a few others probably I'm getting close to what I want thought.
Anything along the lines of scorpions,evh,judas priest,acdc,mostly eighties some heavier stuff is what I'm looking for.
A thought in all of this is how many times have I heard live music that didn't sound much at all tonewise to their recordings. food for thought I guess.:banana:
Thanks for input. The reason I ask is I got a digi-df-7 but the only setting worth a crap is 6 to me. You can hear each note a lot better than the amps overdrive itself. I was surprised at that it was night and day difference with this particular amp.
I'll get the mzone and a few others probably I'm getting close to what I want thought.
Anything along the lines of scorpions,evh,judas priest,acdc,mostly eighties some heavier stuff is what I'm looking for.
A thought in all of this is how many times have I heard live music that didn't sound much at all tonewise to their recordings. food for thought I guess.:banana:
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