Classic stack plus DCR can’t be right?

[Glorioso]

Classic stack plus DCR can’t be right?

The SD website lists the classic stack plus pickups withs 8.7 DCR for the neck and 8.6 for the middle and 8.5 bridge. This can’t be right, can it?

I just checked mine and I have the neck at 8.89, middle at 8.25 and bridge at 8.4. This also has to be wrong. Am I missing something?

 

[AlexR]

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2 sources of info (official website and actual measured figures) match......why 'can't ' it be right??

 

[Glorioso]

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2 sources of info (official website and actual measured figures) match......why 'can't ' it be right??

I’m asking because I don’t know. So SD is saying the hotter pickup goes in the neck?

 

[Chistopher]

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SD is saying the pickup with the highest DCR goes in the neck. That doesn't always mean hotter, even with pickups from the same set.

 

[EDX]

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remember DCR =/= Output


just look at the jb and the dimebucker, they have about the same dcr but the dimebucker is a high output monster just a bit under the duncan blackouts league

 

[Glorioso]

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So you guys are telling me the 9k is for the neck and the 8k is for the bridge? I have never seen this before in any SD pickups, and I own 5 sets currently, and have had many more in guitars I have sold.

 

[Silence Kid]

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It's curious to me- but I know stacks (and in particular the Stack Plus series) don't necessarily follow normal rules DC-wise. There are without a doubt enough variables for SD to tweak in a way that results in differing or unexpected DC resistance within the set (or maybe even for pickups individually; aren't these the pickups Duncan says each get tweaked off the line for hum-reduction?) I'd love someone to elaborate on the detail as well

 

[EDX]

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lol, if you want something counter intuitive just look at the malmsteen sig set, they're just a tad hotter than vintage strat pickups but they can have DCRs as high as 24Kohms.....

DCR DOESN'T dictate tone nor output, it only tells you how much wire is on the pickup, inductance and peak freq DO tell you more about output and tone than DCR will ever do (inductance tells you an aprox output while peak freq tells you how much high end and or chime you would get from that pickup)

 

[AlexR]

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So you guys are telling me the 9k is for the neck and the 8k is for the bridge? I have never seen this before in any SD pickups, and I own 5 sets currently, and have had many more in guitars I have sold.

Try looking at a lot of vintage style Tele pickups - as it seems like you have some 'worldview expansion' needed. Should be able to get you past the one-dimensional 'DCR always equals output' nonsense you seem to be clinging to

 

[Mincer]

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I always just figured that they were stacks, and didn't follow the normal convention of determining output level. But I am not one who can hear any difference between 8.4 and 8.9, either. They are great pickups (one of my favorite Strat sets), so install them, and enjoy them. Let us know how they sound in your guitar.

 

[Synapsys]

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In my ash Strat ESP LTD copy, they sound awesome in the neck and middle position. They also match the Hot Rails I have in the bridge very well, even with a smal output mismatch.

 

[Riley]

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I always just figured that they were stacks, and didn't follow the normal convention of determining output level. But I am not one who can hear any difference between 8.4 and 8.9, either. They are great pickups (one of my favorite Strat sets), so install them, and enjoy them. Let us know how they sound in your guitar.

Yep! DCR is always a tricky way to figure output of a pickup, but especially so with Stacks - the reason being you're getting DCR from both coils but you're not getting as much signal from the bottom coil as from the top. As for why this particular set reads the way it does, I would just say that DCR isn't a spec we design for, it's simply an outcome of the finished product.

 

[Glorioso]

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Turns out they were loaded wrong. The 8.9k is for the bridge.

 

[Mincer]

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Do they sound noticeably better now?

 

[Glorioso]

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Definitely! Especially the bridge. The neck is a little different but the bridge has more to it. They were labeled correctly and just installed wrong. Now it all makes sense again.

 

[Mincer]

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Wonderful! I dig the neck & middle ones. Certainly my current favorite Strat pickups.

 

[Glorioso]

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Me too, sound much better in the correct configuration.

 

[jeremy]

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i really liked my classic stack+ set but ended up swapping the bridge to a vintage hot stack+. the output is about the same but the highs are a bit less spikey and the bottom a bit bigger, still sounds very much like a strat pup though