Closest thing to Zephyr humbuckers?

[PicoRiveraTele]

Believe it or not, they do sound different than regular passive humbuckers.

I need to see some evidence of this. And to be clear, this is not simple skepticism. The idea that decreasing the already trivial resistance across the coil is significant to the way a pickup operates is silly.

 

[beaubrummels]

I need to see some evidence of this. And to be clear, this is not simple skepticism. The idea that decreasing the already trivial resistance across the coil is significant to the way a pickup operates is silly.

Have you played them? I don't think anyone asserted the simple change in resistance is solely responsible for any noticable difference in sound. There could be a number of other factors in it's assembly that affect it's sound, like layering and tension. So far, several people who played them didn't react that they sound like anything else in the product line. Granted it's a small sample and not a controlled scientific study, but the human response of someone who is a professional or skilled/experienced in the domain shouldn't be discounted outright. The first time you try something, you don't know what to expect, so your initial response is perfectly valid and informative.

 

[Mincer]

I need to see some evidence of this. And to be clear, this is not simple skepticism. The idea that decreasing the already trivial resistance across the coil is significant to the way a pickup operates is silly.

I don't know what to tell you, but I've tried them. There is something to them. PRS makes guitars that cost $20k, and there is a market for them, too. I get that there is a lot of skepticism out there. If they sounded just like every other passive pickup, I'd say that. But they are their own thing.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

There could be a number of other factors in it's assembly that affect it's sound, like layering and tension. So far, several people who played them didn't react that they sound like anything else in the product line.

How are layering and tension supposed to affect the sound? I have yet to see anyone explain how that's supposed to work.

People trying them and thinking they sound different, that's easy to discount, the lack of a proper double blind demonstration, people being impressed with the fact that they're so expensive is enough to make a person think they're hearing something special.

 

[Demanic]

In the end, if you don't think that they sound good enough to justify the price, just don't purchase them. There are plenty of cheap pickups out there.

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[Mincer]

Is your issue that they are expensive? Price out of the equation (or if they were the same price as other production pickups), they still sound different than any other model that they make.

 

[Demanic]

Is your issue that they are expensive? Price out of the equation (or if they were the same price as other production pickups), they still sound different than any other model that they make.

Price out of the equation and I would have some in a heartbeat.

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[PicoRiveraTele]

Is your issue that they are expensive? Price out of the equation (or if they were the same price as other production pickups), they still sound different than any other model that they make.

No they don't. I know this to be a fact because I know what materials are used, and I understand the underlying physics. You can try to say the pull off some magic trick, I know this not to be true, because I keep both of my feet in reality. I only mention the price point because consumers are frequently fooled into mistaking price for quality.

 

[superpete]

are you honestly saying you know "for a fact" what a pickup you've never played sounds like? asking for a friend...

 

[beaubrummels]

No they don't. I know this to be a fact because I know what materials are used, and I understand the underlying physics. You can try to say the pull off some magic trick, I know this not to be true, because I keep both of my feet in reality. I only mention the price point because consumers are frequently fooled into mistaking price for quality.

No one said they were higher quality. Only that they sound different than a Jazz set.

 

[Mincer]

No they don't. I know this to be a fact because I know what materials are used, and I understand the underlying physics. You can try to say the pull off some magic trick, I know this not to be true, because I keep both of my feet in reality. I only mention the price point because consumers are frequently fooled into mistaking price for quality.

Cool.

 

[Clint 55]

I don't get what's weird about making a pup above an $80 or $160 price point. It's just the delux recipe with them going all out on development and materials without regard for the end price. I think it sounds really good for what it is too.

 

[Artie]

I like the fact that a company would do an "experimental" pup like this, just to see how far the envelope can be pushed. As far as price goes, they're no more expensive than 4 or 5 "cheap" guitars that I've bought, that I rarely touch anymore. Likewise 3 or 4 amps that collect dust. The Zephyrs, on the other hand, I'd probably play every day.

I need to sell some stuff.

 

[Mincer]

There are a lot of people who can't get past the cost. I think million dollar cars are ridiculous, too, but there is a market for them. And they do drive pretty well (I've heard).

 

[GrilledChickenSalad]

59s? WLH?

A 59 set with silver wire and bimetallic slugs.

 

[idsnowdog]

I want something that tastes like caviar at cheeze whiz prices. That's reasonable right?

 

[Mincer]

There might still be people who are mad that caviar exists at all.

 

[Gtrjunior]

I think caviar is disgusting even though I’ve never tried it.