Couple Fluence questions for Falbo

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3rd time: it's about additional options and innovation. Versatility. Some people are recreating the past. This is not that.
 
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Also, drex, I what world should I or anyone on this forum be asked to defend their decision in the way that you present arguments. Guitar forums are full of small minded incoherent and uneducated cork sniffers citing all kinds of pseudo science about tone and their main goal is to recreate the past. That is not my goal.
 
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Agreed. This thread was a simple question that turned into an ideological war. I am so tired of the generally misinformed and antagonistic online guitar community. Thanks for answering my questions.

There isn't just a "guitar community", this is an industry with hundreds of guitar accessory makers trying to sell us on their latest wares. We're inundated with marketing and advertising pushing us in one direction or another. Most of us are hobbyists, but there are some here who are counting on what transpires here to be favorable to their business interests.


3rd time: it's about additional options and innovation. Versatility. Some people are recreating the past. This is not that.

So put another way, you are primarily avoiding "boutique PAF repros" because they were designed a long time ago, and not because of any specific draw backs to their design? That's cool, I wouldn't want to hassle with batteries just for that reason alone, but to each their own.


Also, drex, I what world should I or anyone on this forum be asked to defend their decision in the way that you present arguments. Guitar forums are full of small minded incoherent and uneducated cork sniffers citing all kinds of pseudo science about tone and their main goal is to recreate the past. That is not my goal.


I've requested information from you, but I have not called you a "small minded incoherent and uneducated cork sniffer", and the admins are especially intolerant of name calling on this forum.
 
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DreX what is your Yelp handle? I want to check out some of your restaurant reviews for places you have never eaten at.
 
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I've never reviewed Fluence pickups. I've never made any claims as to how they sound, all I've done is draw attention to the specious claims that have been made about their technical and practical merits.


Speaking of reviews, there is not a single customer review for any of the Fishman Fluence offerings on Amazon, and few if any elsewhere. If anyone has bought a set, please leave a review.
 
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I've never reviewed Fluence pickups. I've never made any claims as to how they sound, all I've done is draw attention to the specious claims that have been made about their technical and practical merits.


Speaking of reviews, there is not a single customer review for any of the Fishman Fluence offerings on Amazon, and few if any elsewhere. If anyone has bought a set, please leave a review.

Why not be one of the first DRE?
 
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Drex:

IF YOU NEVER PURCHASED AND INSTALLED THESE PUPS, THEN YOU HAVE NO MEANS OF MIND TO GAUGE HOW THEY SOUND.

Everything else that you spew out is techno-trashing these pups. (e.g., Trash talking something you know nothing about!) BUT you seem to be determined to blab-blab-blab about crap...

Your comments to against Fluence and especially Frank Falbo are beyond reason, he is one of the coolest supporters of all of the SD forum members, a great tone guru, and fine musician.

I purchased, installed and use a set in one of my home made Stratocaster copies (Pictured on the left)and the guitarist that come to see and hear me play all love the tone, and those whom I let try out the guitar / pups all want a set... Enough said?

Securb and LesStrat both endorse these pups, add my name to the list of extremely satisfied users.
 

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Re: Couple Fluence questions for Falbo

To put it simply, so long as there are people who will sing its praises, there will be skeptics. Without one , there wouldnt be the other.
 
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Then what are you basing your opinions on?

I have been to the factory
I saw them being assembled
I played them thru a 5150, JMC 800 and a Fender with a Slash Les Paul.
I got to compare the wave files of the Fluence vs a "traditional pickup" in Fishman's studio

But you read an internet article. Realy?

I read what Fishman put out.Because they are active, they will not work for me.

You really are being irrational and angry. I said they used a novel, interesting manufacturing process that was innovative, sorry that makes you so angry. I have listened to the audio files they put out. However, I don't like interacting with those who are angry and irrational.

Your attitude makes me want to avoid them, because anyone asks questions, you verbally attack.

I thought objectively the method of manufacture was cool.
 
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Your attitude makes me want to avoid them, because anyone asks questions, you verbally attack.

I am not angry. I am a pretty laid back guy. Those that know me, love me. What winds me up is - there are a ton of people on this board that have a certain opinion about a type of gear or manufacturer and slam them every chance they get. Most of these people have never even laid a hand on the gear they are slamming. I am not saying you are one of these people and if memory serves I have never seen you post in such a manner. Those few cork-sniffers tend to drive me up the wall. It is as if all of us should have a pre-CBS Telecaster, blackface Deluxe and a Klon and that is all any of us should ever use. I don't care what people put in their guitars. What doesn't work for me might give you a great tone. I have seen rigs on this board that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole that guitarists get amazing sounds out of. That being said there are probably people out there that think my rig sucks.

I apologize for coming off rough. There are certain irritants in this thread that bring out what is not the best in me.
 
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"I played a Parker Fly and it sounded awful through my rig."

:chairfall

There are so many variables not addressed.

What rig? Which model Fly?

I've had three Parkers with distinctly different configurations. only one had active circuits. All had passive pickups.
 
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Which battery pack should I order for my PRS?

Is the classic humbucker genuinely comparable to PAF repros from today's boutique companies or are there trade offs?

Forget all the crap that DREX and WOLF5150 posted - they are serious trollers, who haven't tried Fluence pickups and only post negative crap..

You should listen to Frank, Securb, LesStrat and myself...

Again... To attempt to provide you with a potential solutions...

PRO-BPK-101 is a universal battery pack that you should be able to retro-fit

http://www.fishman.com/files/fluence_universal_battery_pack_user_guide.pdf
http://www.fishman.com/files/universal_battery_pack_install_guide.pdf
Will need to drill a ½ hole into the plastic control cavity cover.

I have a PRS SE that I installed the following on without much difficulty:

PRF-CHB-NN1 Neck
PRF-CHB-BN1 Bridge
PRO-BPK-101 Battery for control cavity cover, with slight filing and drilling a ½ inch hole

However, you forgot to state and still need to state which model PSR you have... Control cavities covers are different - USA PRS verses SE PRS!

1) http://www.fishman.com/products/view/universal-rechargeable-battery-pack Retrofit it to match the PRS cover.

2) Contact Fishman directly (+1 978-988-9199) and request help for the particular model PRS that you own.
 
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The Fluence pickups are not active. Have you played them?

Fishman Fluence Classic Humbucker Pickup Set at a Glance:
  • Active electronics deliver classic tone - without the noise
  • Multi-voice Fluence Classic provides two distinct voices
  • Power supply delivers 200+ hours of use

Yes, I use both the Humbucking and Single coil Fluence pups.

Sweet and hot in a very nice way!
 
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Thanks guys. I absolutely recognize the trolls as well.

I have a USA Custom 24 and a USA DGT. Basically the same cavities. I've got the universal pack on order. I think I'd rather do a very small route to the cavity than add extra holes to the back for the strat battery pack.

Glad those of you who love pickups and have played these love them. I personally work on a lot of extremely high end engineering projects and am often evaluating teams & methods toward the end goal. Based on that, when these were announced, I knew I was buying a set. They're on order and should be here soon. Can't wait!
 
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I personally work on a lot of extremely high end engineering projects and am often evaluating teams & methods toward the end goal. Based on that, when these were announced, I knew I was buying a set.

Hmm. Interesting.
 
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Hmm. Interesting.

Elaborate. I think I know what you're getting at but I want you to say it. Come on Drex. Troll harder. Be less ambiguous. Bring your a game. Also, please avoid logical fallacies from this point on.
 
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