Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

[DankStar]

I love this song. I tried to dial in something close with my gsp (RG100 amp) and an external 6-band EQ. God help you if you turn the noise gate off with this setting.

mine:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16938354/cowboys test.mp3


original:

 

[jtougas]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

You're close, and it may just be your mic choice, but you've got a little extra upper mids going on...

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Sounds killer, it's really pretty close man...nice song & my fave Pantera album (...the only one I like along with Vulgar Display)

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Not exactly... but I like it better than the original. Good show.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Thanks for checking it out & commenting - for giggles, I think I'm going to try some frequency analyzers/matcher type plugins and see if I can get it any closer. I think I have It's an elusive guitar tone for sure.

I used a guitar with a bill Lawrence L500L, but I kinda wish I had an XL to use.

 

[jtougas]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I'd say somewhere in the 800 - 1k region is where you're boosted a little, but I'd have to do the same - look at it on an FA...

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Thanks for checking it out & commenting - for giggles, I think I'm going to try some frequency analyzers/matcher type plugins and see if I can get it any closer. I think I have It's an elusive guitar tone for sure.

I used a guitar with a bill Lawrence L500L, but I kinda wish I had an XL to use.

I believed he used the L500L for cowboys actually. I know,he started with those and moved on the the XL later.

 

[El Dunco]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I have the floor version of the unit. Sounds a bit less scooped than Dime's but it's still quite close and it's a cool tone anyway. Would you share your settings with us? If that's direct, colour me impressed.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

It's a lot of stuff - in the unit, with a mic on the cab, and in the computer - I'll have to figure it all out and report back. I've got the stuff not in computer written down, but I'll need to go into my project file to figure out the rest.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Not exactly... but I like it better than the original. Good show.

I have to say I concur. The original is a bit more scooped. But yours sounds way fatter. My ideal would be two guitars playing together, one with each tone.

 

[El Dunco]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I have to say I concur. The original is a bit more scooped. But yours sounds way fatter. My ideal would be two guitars playing together, one with each tone.

Well well, I had a feeling it wouldn't be long before we heard from the guy who already got Dime's tone down last year. Come to think of it, the tone Dankie got sounds almost exactly like the Alice In Hell tone he was going for last year.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I guess the original really is that scooped - wow. I used voxengo's curve eq to do a match and came up with this (there's a muted pause in there due to it being a demo). I'm going to write down the eq settings and apply another EQ to see if I can achieve what it's doing without the mutes and maybe not as extreme (it may have been trying to mimic the bass guitar and the highs of the cymbals, but it does sound closer - I probably won't mimic what it's doing on the super high and low ends of the spectrum).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16938354/cowboys curve test2.mp3

I still need to post the whole signal chain later too.

 

[El Dunco]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

Getting warmer
It may just need a bit of tightening at the front end like the 6 band MXR EQ Dime would use to hit the front with the faders in a frowny face arrangement.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

here's a quick go with what the curve EQ is suggesting, but with a graphic EQ plugin (sounds a bit too scooped):

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16938354/cowboys curve test graphic .mp3

I prefer this one - just grabbing a channel eq and dropping down a bit around 500:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16938354/cowboys curve test channel .mp3

Long story short - I don't think I'm down with his level of scoop for my own playing, but it's nice to hear him do it.

Getting warmer
It may just need a bit of tightening at the front end like the 6 band MXR EQ Dime would use to hit the front with the faders in a frowny face arrangement.

I did use an mxr 6 band like that during tracking - I had read he actually boosted mids on the 6-band and with his parametric EQ. They must have scooped it afterwards when they mixed stuff because it sure doesn't sound mid-boosted on the albums.

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I did use an mxr 6 band like that during tracking - I had read he actually boosted mids on the 6-band and with his parametric EQ. They must have scooped it afterwards when they mixed stuff because it sure doesn't sound mid-boosted on the albums.

That is what I was under the impression of as well.

 

[El Dunco]

Re: Cowboys from Hell tone test - medicine man

I did use an mxr 6 band like that during tracking - I had read he actually boosted mids on the 6-band and with his parametric EQ. They must have scooped it afterwards when they mixed stuff because it sure doesn't sound mid-boosted on the albums.

He didn't boost on the parametric. He only boosted on the graphic and used the Furman to take out those mid frequencies.