Jacew
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Re: Creamback 65 vs scumback m75?
I have to continue this with couple of notions: G12H has 30W power handling. Not 25W.
And that despite having same cones and structure in some cases H and M magnet Celestion sound really different. As much as V30 vs. G12M.
As long as they close mic'd the Creamback, the bleed from the other speaker not being a Creamback should be negligible.
You are oversimplifying.
The G12M Heritage and the Classic series G12M Greenback do not have the same cone. The cone on the Heritage is different, and, supposedly, based on the original Pulsonic cone, while the G12M Classic has the more recent Kurt Mueller cone. If you look at them side by side, you can tell the doping and the dust cap are pretty different between both too. The wattage handling on the G12EVH/Heritage is more of a marketing thing to make them appear more vintage-correct, as in fact, they can handle the same 25W that the Classics can (hence why the EVH 4x12 which is loaded with EVH's can still handle the full-on 100W 5150).
There are also the 75Hz and 55Hz H versions in the Heritage range. The G12H(75) has the same cone as the EVH/G12M Heritage. The G12H(55) has the bass cone based on the older original Pulsonics.
There is the classic G12H-30 Anniversary which has the same Kurt Mueller 1777 lead cone as the Classic G12M Greenback, just with the H magnet. They don't sell them with the green magnet cover, but they're just a Classic G12M Greenback with a heavy magnet.
The Creambacks have the same cone as the Heritage 75Hz, but the voice coil is different (it obviously has to be to handle more watts). There is also an G12H-75 Creamback with the heavy magnet, not just the G12M-65 with the medium magnet.
The G12-35XC also belongs in the Heritage and Creamback family as it has the same cone. It comes, however, with a magnet that falls between the Heavy and Medium magnets' weights.
The Redback is entirely a different thing and not all that related. It has a 2" voice coil and a different cone altogether.
I have to continue this with couple of notions: G12H has 30W power handling. Not 25W.
And that despite having same cones and structure in some cases H and M magnet Celestion sound really different. As much as V30 vs. G12M.
