Crimes Against Humanity (Guitars)

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More-Gear-Than-Skill said:
báratta's Avatar picture is also rather scary.
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I’m pleased that the future King of Rock is having the desired effect. :D

LSP said:
I actually like the double cut LP, just hate that it was done to a piece of history, but maybe at the time it was done who would have know it would become something important.
That HB ice-pick routed strat is much more scarrier. Just reveals a lot of stupidity.
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:eek5: You like Bad Coconuts? No LP (new or old*) should be subjected to the bizarre southpaw S&M torture/bondage. LSP is Evil... :saeek:

*Excepting Les Paul Recording.
 
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PFDarkside said:
For some reason amp abuse is no problem to me. I guess it's because so many great sounds have been made out of modded marshalls that stock or not I can appreciate them. I guess I see an amp as utilitarian and a guitar as a piece of art.
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My take on it is with all the different flavors of amps that are available it's ridiculous to take a 35 year old amp and make it do something it wasn't meant to do. I have an 81 Park with 2 holes drilled in the back plate, presumably because some dummy wanted an effects loop that bad. Nevermind that there are dozens of similar sounding amps with effects loops in them, not even that the dummy could have attempted to run the effects loop without drilling frickin' holes in the chassis... But the dummy had to do it to a Park.
 
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I guess I need to post my crime:

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Yeah, that's a 71-ish Gibson EB-0. The duck tape hides a multitude of sins.

I got this bass when I was 15-16 years old. I routed it out for P pickups with a sharpened screwdriver and a hammer.

In my defense I was 16 years old and the headstock of the bass had been broken off at least twice before I owned it. However, being 16, I would have routed it out anyway if it would have been pristine.

Many different pickups have been in that rout, and it's been enlarged and moved to accomodate pickups and placement. I've also had to put in a plywood "floor" to raise the bottom of the cavity to mount some pickups.

This bass was my 10 year long epiphany about "modding." You can't make things do what they don't want to do. This is a 30" short scale bass made of mahogany. It's not going to sound like a Precision or Jazz no matter how much I change the bridge or what pickups I put in it- it's going to remain an EB-0, a short scale bass made of mahogany. It will never be anything different. Thank God I didn't do this to my cherry '68 EB-2 before I sold it... :laugh2:
 
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It would seem that the trend is that every guitar will eventually be a piece of history and every guitar over ten years old is a vintage classic... Oh well, buy off the rack and live with it-- don't touch those solder joints!!!

Any old good classic guitar is a good guitar no matter the mod... even the mods are a part of the instrument's legacy.

Now, if you're routing a Strat that you paid $80,000 for...
 
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Boston Joe said:
It would seem that the trend is that every guitar will eventually be a piece of history and every guitar over ten years old is a vintage classic... Oh well, buy off the rack and live with it-- don't touch those solder joints!!!

Any old good classic guitar is a good guitar no matter the mod... even the mods are a part of the instrument's legacy.

Now, if you're routing a Strat that you paid $80,000 for...
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Yes, though there are tasteful and well executed mods (Tele Gib for example) on the one hand…and evil mutilations on the other…We’ll forgive you Golden Boy.:laugh2:
 
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Boston Joe said:
It would seem that the trend is that every guitar will eventually be a piece of history and every guitar over ten years old is a vintage classic... Oh well, buy off the rack and live with it-- don't touch those solder joints!!!

Any old good classic guitar is a good guitar no matter the mod... even the mods are a part of the instrument's legacy.

Now, if you're routing a Strat that you paid $80,000 for...
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I would completely disagree with you. Prices on old guitars get out of hand when people mistake "old" for "vintage." Being tasteful and knowlegable with modifications make for "players," not collectors pieces. Mods are a part of an instrument's legacy, when you realize that old Klusons aren't the best tuners in the world, and most people attribute tuning problems to the tuners instead of properly cut nuts, it's no wonder you see a lot of old Gibsons with Grovers or Schallers.

The long and the short of it is to get what you're looking for.
 
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The Golden Boy said:
I guess I need to post my crime:

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Yeah, that's a 71-ish Gibson EB-0. The duck tape hides a multitude of sins.

I got this bass when I was 15-16 years old. I routed it out for P pickups with a sharpened screwdriver and a hammer.

In my defense I was 16 years old and the headstock of the bass had been broken off at least twice before I owned it. However, being 16, I would have routed it out anyway if it would have been pristine.

Many different pickups have been in that rout, and it's been enlarged and moved to accomodate pickups and placement. I've also had to put in a plywood "floor" to raise the bottom of the cavity to mount some pickups.

This bass was my 10 year long epiphany about "modding." You can't make things do what they don't want to do. This is a 30" short scale bass made of mahogany. It's not going to sound like a Precision or Jazz no matter how much I change the bridge or what pickups I put in it- it's going to remain an EB-0, a short scale bass made of mahogany. It will never be anything different. Thank God I didn't do this to my cherry '68 EB-2 before I sold it... :laugh2:
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What tools did you use to put the G&L Bridge in? I know what that bridge looks like underneath. You need to route out for it. Next ? Who forsaked their
G&L Bridge? A buddy gave me a bada$$ bridge and said`Put this on your G&L..
It will sound better' I took the bridge off my G&L and held both in my hand.
IMO the stock G&L Bridge blow's away any after market bridge. Leo got it Right this time. :D
 
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I regconise that so-called double cut LP pictured posted by LSP.
I was supposed to be a right handed guitar or something, then they changed it to a left handed guitar. why not just get a lefty and stick with it. just because a lefty cost abit more and by "plastic surgery" it doesn't give a something better and its going to cost even more
 
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Lacking the reverse pickguard and that awful plate around the knobs I love it. The vibrato is just plain ugly.

Come on admit it, who here doesn't really like it. Come on, fess up. Look at that shape, it grows on you.

If loving that is worng then I don't want to be right. But I wouldn't do it to a existing guitar, maybe I'd get it done.

Is the name of that guitar Bad Coconuts?
 
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LSP said:
Come on admit it, who here doesn't really like it. Come on, fess up. Look at that shape, it grows on you.

If loving that is worng then I don't want to be right. But I wouldn't do it to a existing guitar, maybe I'd get it done.

Is the name of that guitar Bad Coconuts?
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Yes, it's name is Bad Coconuts.

I really hate that guitar. I mean really, REALLY hate that guitar. At no point in the past 40 years have 1950's Les Pauls been "cheap" or "inexpensive," or even "easy to acquire." Granted, there are only 3 known left handed 58-60 Les Pauls, but for the love of Hank Jr, can't you just get another guitar rather than hacking apart something beautiful?
 
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kmcguitars said:
What tools did you use to put the G&L Bridge in? I know what that bridge looks like underneath. You need to route out for it. Next ? Who forsaked their
G&L Bridge? A buddy gave me a bada$$ bridge and said`Put this on your G&L..
It will sound better' I took the bridge off my G&L and held both in my hand.
IMO the stock G&L Bridge blow's away any after market bridge. Leo got it Right this time. :D
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I really wanted to rout the body to install the bridge, but the guy who actually did it suggested grinding off the "fin" on the bottom of the bridge. G&L really should think about making that bridge in an easily installable version- make sure the screw holes line up with stock Fender & Gotoh templates. For starters, it's a good solid bridge- I don't believe that more mass=better- but I do believe a in a good solid design. For example, the one piece design with the "horseshoe" is fantastic- what makes it even better is the set screw that pushes the saddles together. Compare that to a Badass...
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Yes, it has a big footprint, aside from the "trough" the saddles slide in, they're out there alone. Yes, it's an improvement on the bent piece of metal Fender (which honstly doesn't sound much (if any) different than the Badass).

I forgot to post pics of my Jazz Bass. It's a 1965, and it was very badly refinished. I like to refer to it as a 7th grade woodshop project gone wrong. Whoever did it was very proud of it, as he dated and initialed his work. You can't really see the brush strokes in the lacquer, but there there. It used to be Fiesta Red.
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Not disputing báratta's claims of my evilness (who am I to say if I am or not) I have to make one thing clear.

I DO NOT approve of this being done to that guitar. I would love to see it done on any LP that did not have a historical value (even if at the time it was just perceivable to a few). And I must add I only approve of the upper cutaway, that's it, the shields and vibrato are hideous and a stupid idea on any guitar of any time.

Wouldn't mind having Bad Coconuts and clean it up. That upper cutaway just appeals to me and I bet it keeps the neck stable.

EDIT: check out my sig :13:
 
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LSP said:
Wouldn't mind having Bad Coconuts and clean it up. That upper cutaway just appeals to me and I bet it keeps the neck stable.

EDIT: check out my sig :13:
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Dude, you're evil and dangerous. :laugh2:
 
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Ah, you're just saying that becasue it's true... LOL

Come on, cant you see it... strung for a right handed, shields removed, a decent vibrato that would hide that thing (Bigsby with a plate or maybe a Stets), JP wiring, if the pups weren't ofiginal maybe a Alnico II or Phat Cats set, a nice set of locking tuners if the originals had been tampered with or were too unstable for playing...

Oh, I want that guitar, sooo bad...
 
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Ok, I am officially seeking help. Who here wants to help me buy that guitar?

LOL

Seriouslly, any takers and I'll buy that thing.
 
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Sure am.

That thing appeals to me like no Gibson ever has. And I'd mod it, like I said (couldn't be any worse than what's been done to it).
 
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You know that thing, besides being a crime against both God and man, it's famous. A 'boogered' burst drops the value exponentially- but that... that... thing is so vile and putrescent... I think it's worth even more because of it's "Thou Shalt Not..." value.

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So, will you cash out some cash for me to have it or not? That way you don't have to see it. LOL

I'm considering using it as my avatar until I have it in my evil and dangerours hands Buahhahhahahah, ha.
 
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