Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

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I've been testing the Custom 5, Custom 8 and Custom Unoriented A5 for a time now and I'll try to do a quick comparison here, in order to help whoever is interested in this pickups.

Guitar used: SG
Neck Pickup: Stock 59n
Amps: many, including tube and SS


Here we go:

Custom 5

Originally, I bought this pickup, following the recommendations of the forum:

Characteristics: bright; sharp high end; tight bass; kinda scooped mids; percusive on heavy picking

Pros: matches perfectly with the 59n (tonally speaking); the scooped mids helps in the sg, which is a very "middy" guitar; the output is nice and not overpower the 59n; very nice to do chord and powerchord rythms, specially when you're with a band, since it has a tight sound and not much mids, this allow the other guitar (doing dolo) to shine more in the mix.

Cons: Sometimes it gets to bright, kinda ear piercing highs; the scooped mids can also be a problem, specially if you are the lead guitar (in this case you must be sure that the rhythm guitar is at a lower volume or mid scooped too)

Resume: I think this pickup works really nice in the SG and deliver those clapton tones very well. Also does a little Zeppelin, since Jimmy Page has a bright tone sometimes. And, of course, you can get nice Angus Tone by rolling back the tone (and maybe the volume) a bit.


Custom 8

The second I've tried, doing a magnet swap and putting an A8 in it.

Characteristics: More balanced EQ than the Custom 5; tight bass; more lower mids; rounded highs; increased output; basically, a very hot pickup;

Pros: Nice to do metal tones and powerchords; good to overdrive the preamp; nice solo tones; good output for heavier tunes; modern sounding for modern sounds; it cuts nice through the mix; rounded cleans.

Cons: too much output when compared to the 59n (if you set a soloing distorted tone for the 59n, you'll get metal tone from the C8 - if you set crunchy sound for the C8, you'll get almost clean sound from the 59n); not so clear notes when playing crunchy chords; sometimes it seems to modern to do old classic rock tunes; you have to set it a little bit further away from the strings.

Resume: nice pickup for heavier tones, but it can do softer either, due its rounded highs and not so percursive sounding. This pickup can be a monster with a live band.

Custom Unoriented A5

The last one I've tried.

Characteristics: Warm; a lot of mids; kinda looser bass; soft highs

Pros: great for doing solo in a band, since the mids shine and cut through the mix; nice vintage tone when compared to the other 2; very nice dynamics, when you pick hard, it crunches, when you pick light, it gets cleaner; very complex and unique tones.

Cons: sometimes it can get way to middy in the sg; the loose bass can get annoying when you want to hit hard and get a more percusive response; if you're doing rhytym guitar in a band, maybe it can be a little difficult for the lead guitar to cut through the mix, since the midrange is yours; it's not a nice tonal match to the 59n, since the tone is way different and much more complex; sometimes it's too warm and the 59n seems even a little brighter (of course i'm talking just of the high end frequency.

Resume: nice pickup for vintage tones, specially if you're a lead guitar. Not so great for doing chords like the chorus of "You shook me all night long", since the loose bass kinda hide the lower notes. I'll describe it as a hot lead vintage pickup, but I must remember that this one is the one which gets the lower output between the 3 (because of that, you can leave it closer to the strings, since it's noticeable the weaker magnet - for string pull).


I hope it helps, guys. I'd like to thank the honorable member Blueman335, who sent me those magnets and turned me in this tone freak I am now.

Sorry for any mistakes in English too. If you have any question, feel free to ask.
 
Re: Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

Thanks a lot for this. I think it could be useful to quite a few people who are wondering what to do with their pickups. Plus, I just appreciate the effort to write up a detailed review.
 
Re: Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

Thanks a lot for this. I think it could be useful to quite a few people who are wondering what to do with their pickups. Plus, I just appreciate the effort to write up a detailed review.

I agree. Im thinking I need to get a Custom and do some swapping!

Roughcast, since it's the one that Blueman sent me.

If you can, find a polished UOA5. I think it adds a little more bite and tightness. It might be perfect for what you're looking for. Though......if you talked with Blueman, you probably know more than me at this point. That guy is the Godfather of the CustomUOA5 around here.
 
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Thanks for posting this. Great review! I just got a new guitar yesterday that came stock with the '59/ Custom Custom combo. Haven't played it through my own setup yet, but I will tonight. Can't wait! I'm already thinking I'll end up making the bridge a Custom 8 though, just to thicken it up so it can act as a worthy backup to my C8-equipped Les Paul. So my new-found obsession with the Custom continues. Lol!
 
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My favorite Custom is the C8, but I totally understand and agree with your assessment of the three Customs.

For what you are using your SG for, it sounds like the UOA5 is your best bet. But the "problems" that you are having with it could be corrected by also putting a UOA5 in your '59 neck pup and then adjusting the EQ at the amp to compensate for the higher mids.

Now that you are addicted to mag swapping, it's time to try hybridding. A hybrid of your Custom with a '59 with an A5 would be perfect for your bridge position and would pair up perfectly with your '59n.
 
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Excellent comparison! :friday: I wish every guy I send magnets to would do a write-up like this. Don't worry about your English, it's better than most Americans.

Although an UOA5 in the bridge can have a very different tone than an typical A5 in a neck PU, that can also be a good thing if you want more variety, especially if you blend the two PU's at various volumes (independent volume controls). Since I play a lot of lead guitar (blues and classic rock), I latched on to the UOA5 immediately. Although every magnet has it's shortcomings, the UOA5 has some great qualities. I love that it has so much A2 feel, but adds some treble to give a high end with bite and cut.
 
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+1.

When I first tried the Custom/59 hybrid, I was in heaven. When I swapped out the A5 for a UOA5.....well, I don't know what to call it, but it's like heaven's heaven (tonewise and feelwise).
 
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I'm really glad you all liked my post. It took me some work to write it.

Excellent comparison! :friday: I wish every guy I send magnets to would do a write-up like this. Don't worry about your English, it's better than most Americans.

Although an UOA5 in the bridge can have a very different tone than an typical A5 in a neck PU, that can also be a good thing if you want more variety, especially if you blend the two PU's at various volumes (independent volume controls). Since I play a lot of lead guitar (blues and classic rock), I latched on to the UOA5 immediately. Although every magnet has it's shortcomings, the UOA5 has some great qualities. I love that it has so much A2 feel, but adds some treble to give a high end with bite and cut.

I just didn't write it before because I want to spend the right time with each one. This way I can build a more consisten opinion. Which one is your favorite? Honestly I'm not 100% sure of what I like the most.
 
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I have not tried any of these but it sounds like I need to stick to ceramic. Nice reviews.
 
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+1.

When I first tried the Custom/59 hybrid, I was in heaven. When I swapped out the A5 for a UOA5.....well, I don't know what to call it, but it's like heaven's heaven (tonewise and feelwise).

What about the Hybrid 8? Have you tried that yet? I bet it would be totally awesome, considering how many great reviews I hear about the 59'8 and C8.
 
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Which one is your favorite? Honestly I'm not 100% sure of what I like the most.

I was a big C5 fan, until the C8 came on the scene here. I converted all my C5's to C8's, and put A8's in a variety of bridge PU's. Then when I got the first batch of UOA5's from Addiction, I started pulling most of the A8's that I had in HB's and replaced them with UOA5's. My favorite bridge P-90 mags are still an A8/A4 pair. Every magnet has certain PU's and guitars that it shines in. Some shine in more than others.
 
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I was a big C5 fan, until the C8 came on the scene here. I converted all my C5's to C8's, and put A8's in a variety of bridge PU's. Then when I got the first batch of UOA5's from Addiction, I started pulling most of the A8's that I had in HB's and replaced them with UOA5's. My favorite bridge P-90 mags are still an A8/A4 pair. Every magnet has certain PU's and guitars that it shines in. Some shine in more than others.

In your SGs, what are you using? Right now, I'm with the UOA5 but I don't know if that is what I like best.

One strange thing I forgot to mention. In one of the mag swaps, I broke one of the four screws on the baseplate and now I'm with only 3. It doesn't make any difference, but I must be mentally retarded or something like that, since everyone can make it without breaking anything. =(
 
Re: Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

I tried the regular SH-5 Custom in the bridge of my Squier Venus (basswood body, maple/rosewood, tune-o-matic bridge, 25.5" scale) and I found it to have a ton of high presence and not enough mids. The response was quick & firm, and I am more used to a somewhat squishy vintage feel.

I was about to sell the pickup, but this thread convinced me to try some magnet swapping. Looks like I'll start with UOA5 and proceed from there.
 
Re: Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

WTH is UOA5? You have to have north and south pole on a magnet, not sure what the "unoriented" refers to?
 
Re: Custom 5 x Custom 8 x Custom Unoriented A5

The unoriented referres to the molecular structure and not polarity. These magnets are best described as more vintage sounding, looser lows, smoother highs and such. An UOA5 is often described as halfway between an A2 and regular A5
 
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In your SGs, what are you using? Right now, I'm with the UOA5 but I don't know if that is what I like best.

One strange thing I forgot to mention. In one of the mag swaps, I broke one of the four screws on the baseplate and now I'm with only 3. It doesn't make any difference, but I must be mentally retarded or something like that, since everyone can make it without breaking anything. =(

In my SG's the bridge PU's usually have UOA5's now (Custom, '59B, 490T, 498T) or a BBQ set (with stock mags). My one remaining C8 is in a Sheraton.

The only UOA5 I've taken out was in a 498T in a LPC (with 250K's) that was too rounded on top, so I put in an A8 for more treble. With a 250K/500K it probably would have been fine.

I've never managed to break a baseplate screw, but you can strip the threads in the plastic coil if you tighten them too hard.
 
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