Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

[Mac102250]

Just got off the phone with my guitar tech. I had him install a 59/hybrid in the bridge, and I made clear I wanted the custom's slug coil to be the active one when split. After installing it he claims this is backwards to the design of the pickup, and told me that it "won't be as hot as it would usually be". Should I forget about it and leave it as it is or pay the extra 25 bucks to rewire it?

Edit: Reading the website it says "A traditionally wired coil split yields the stronger Custom coil for a robust split tone." Could he have accidentally wired it backwards when I told him I wanted the slug coil?

Actually I'd likely do it myself, originally was gonna have him put on triple shot mounting rings with the pickups but he made a big deal out of it and told me he'd have to find a wiring diagram and yadayadaya. After looking into it I realize it's not nearly as hard as he made it look.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

Well, as you have 2 coils of differing strength, what he's saying has some truth to it. I believe he's trying to get you to split to the custom coil, whereas you are probably asking for it to be split to the 59 coil.

I would say don't rewire it if its split to the custom coil, as that will give you a close to vintage singlecoil strength.

 

[freddarl82]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

Your tech sounds like a real tool. If I were you, I'd get my guitar away from him as fast as possible, take your losses, then get it done correctly. As the quote you added says, the custom coil (slug) will be the selected coil using any standard Duncan wiring diagram (black is hot, bare+green is ground, red and white together and go to the "split" switch of your choosing). What is he making the big deal over?

As for the triple shots, don't they come with a Duncan wiring diagram? I find the Duncan diagrams included with their pups are quite sufficient for all but the most exotic configurations...I would think the triple shot diagrams would be equally useful. Barring that, he would have to go how far...the Duncan website perhaps(?)...to find the proper diagram. Total tool, IMO.

 

[Franknfilms]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

The Custom/59 hybrid is 59 slug, Custom poles. So, when you asked him to split to the "slug" coil he warned you that it is contrary to the typical duncan split (true, duncans are usually split to the pole coil in their diagrams) and that it won't be as hot as it usually would be (true, if you split to the slug coil that is pretty weak, it is the 59 coil afterall). However, I'm surprised that he understands all of that, but is confused by the triple shots, those are a piece of cake. He just doesn't want to learn something new, so I'd say that's reason enough to dump him as a tech.

 

[Mac102250]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

The Custom/59 hybrid is 59 slug, Custom poles.

Wait, what?

Unique hybrid construction pairs a '59 screw coil with a Custom slug coil

Hmm...Thought so.


Yeah this guy is a tool, I couldn't have made it any clearer ("I would like the slug coil to be active...") and I just tested it by tapping with a screwdriver to find it is indeed wired backwards. It's quite funny to me...I even went over it twice. This kind of thing could have only happened to me haha. Whatevs, I needed to start doing my own work anyway.


yes...That's bold, italics, AND underline.

 

[Artie]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

Whats odd is, the "normal" Duncan diagrams always split to the stud coil. (Non-screw, that is.) It almost makes me wonder if he doesn't realize that not all pickups use the same color coding. Perhaps he only knows DMZ color codes, or something. :scratchch

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

Your tech screwed up AND he doesn't know what he's doing!!

Not only did he NOT follow the Duncan wiring scheme for a split on the C/59, but (and more importantly) he did not follow your specific instructions to split to the Custom (slug) coil (which, curiously, just happens to be one and the same scheme).

I'd take it back to him and have him wire it "correctly" or refund your money.

Re: the Triple Shot mounting ring...I love them, they are great. And, an idiot could wire the TS by just following the included wiring instructions (I prefer the "reverse wiring", it makes more sense). If your tech cannot do this or what you asked him to do, he is not a tech that should be working for pay.

If you decide not to take it back to him to get it wired correctly or to get a refund, not to fear...it is a simple proceedure that you can do yourself. We, on the forum, are more than willing to help you if you have any problems.

In any case, I would not ever go back to that "tech".

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

The Custom/59 hybrid is 59 slug, Custom poles. So, when you asked him to split to the "slug" coil he warned you that it is contrary to the typical duncan split (true, duncans are usually split to the pole coil in their diagrams) and that it won't be as hot as it usually would be (true, if you split to the slug coil that is pretty weak, it is the 59 coil afterall). However, I'm surprised that he understands all of that, but is confused by the triple shots, those are a piece of cake. He just doesn't want to learn something new, so I'd say that's reason enough to dump him as a tech.

C/59 hybrid = Custom slug coil/59 screw coil.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/medium-output/sh16_59_custom/

 

[Franknfilms]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

Yep, I screwed up the lingo, what I meant to say was that the custom is the slug, and the 59 is the screw, I was mixing up screw and slug. Therefore, it is official, your tech is wrong about everything.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Custom/59 hybrid wiring question

I figured it was just a momentary brain fart. I know you knew better.