Danelectro FAB overdrive pedal question

Soujurn

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These little pedals are selling for $15 right now, and something I have been wondering about. In their ad literature, Danelectro talks about:
"History was made in 1975 when a mom and pop store in California commissioned the production of just 200 of what is perhaps the best overdrive effect ever. Unlike any other unit, that pedal authentically simulated the breakup that occurs when a tube amp is run at full volume."

What overdrive are they talking about?
 
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I have one too and have been trying to find out what od pedal they are talking about. Definitely not a TS, those were not commissioned by a small store and there weren't only 200 made. Also 1975 was way before the TS. They don't sound anything like a TS either.

If you don't have one of these and have $15 burning a hole in your pocket, they are worth it. They look like toys, but sound great, much more open than a TS or SD without the compression and hyped mids. They make a great clean boost and have lots of output. If Dano repackaged these they could sell them for $100 (or more) and they would be taken seriously.
 
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that Foxx dude owns D-electro now, and perhaps he's talking about himself back in the day? I don't know him from shinola, but I guess he's a legend (Foxx tone machine? or something like that).

at any rate, just get it. the pedal slays. it redefines "smooth" overdrive.
 
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I don't think so. The Foxx Tone Machine was a fuzz pedal, and not a very good one either. It never sounded like a tube amp overdriven. You could get the sound from the Rolling Stones Satisfaction out of it, but that was about it.


DankStar said:
I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that Foxx dude owns D-electro now, and perhaps he's talking about himself back in the day? I don't know him from shinola, but I guess he's a legend (Foxx tone machine? or something like that).

at any rate, just get it. the pedal slays. it redefines "smooth" overdrive.
 
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I would like to know what pedal their marketing blurb is about as well.
 
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well upon further digging I think it might be those pedals that came out before the TS-808 and TS-9, the orange colored one.
I forget the name right now. I haven't been able to get in touch with anyone at Danelectro either to ask. Maybe I'll email AnalogMan. He would know if anyone does, I think.
 
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Soujurn said:
I don't think so. The Foxx Tone Machine was a fuzz pedal, and not a very good one either. It never sounded like a tube amp overdriven. You could get the sound from the Rolling Stones Satisfaction out of it, but that was about it.

oh! :smack:
 
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The Dano French Toast is their Foxx Tone Machine knock off. Pretty cool if you are into octave-y fuzzy things, not my cup of tea though.
 
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It's not really BS, they have just adapted the circuits to be made on small SMT boards with new components and MIC. Is the French Toast going to sound like a real Tone Machine, probably 70 - 80% there, and it definitely lacks the coolness factor, but it's cool still if that's your sound. In fact most (I didn't say all) pedals, even the boutique ones, are just variations on a few basic circuits that have been around for years. There are approximately 4679 versions of a Tube Screamer out there today (okay, I'm being sarcasitic, not sure how many versions of a TS but there are alot!). From what I understand the OCD is basically a Rat with FETs for the clipping diodes, granted there may be some minor changes to some components and I don't think he is using the buffers since he uses TB anyway, but he is quite the master of hype. That's not a cut, he builds great stuff, but he is very good at marketing it too.

But to carry it farther, the Rat, DS-1, and many others have a very similar topology, and that can be traced back to the Distortion+ or DOD Preamp 250 which are also almost identical, just without the tone controls and buffers. It pretty much boils down to component choices, hence the new market for taking "in circulation" pedals, changing a few components and saying "this is what they are supposed to sound like". Again, no cut on those guys, I wish I had thought of some of it.

I'm not trying to argue with you, you know pedals better than I do, I'm sure. Maybe I just have a more simplified view of things. I have built pedals in the past, and had some that outsold the Fulldrive back when it first came out, at least in our little corner of the world. It was just something I whipped up on lunch breaks. The funny thing is that one reviewer said it reminded him of a Marshall Guv'nor when it was more of a Dist+ knockoff.
 
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Ah I did not mean the circuit, more the endless marketing hype surrounding pedals!
:)
Fulltone is a funny company, so much hype for so little, it is just glorified oldtime stuff, not that it is bad or anything, but he makes it sounds like that it is the next coming;)
Which it by alot of means...is not.
I have lowly Boss pedals in my collection, plus a few other lowend stuff that I really like, all the Fulltone stuff I have tried never sat well with me, I have it the same way with that as I have with PRS, not my thing by a far shot:)
Pedals are not rocket science, it is all about making it sound the way you like.
You can only invent the wheel once, all the rest is just refinements or alterations on an old theme:)
I think the FAB's are fun and somewhat cool, plus they are as you say really old known and well liked circuits remade.
A steal in many ways!
Niels
 
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Hey Niels,

I guess I misunderstood what you were saying, we are in total agreement, I was just kinda longwinded about it.

The Danos are pretty good values, they just look like they came out of a bubble gum machine:) Do you have any ideas on what overdrive they are talking about basing the Fab Overdrive on? It really is a good sounding pedal.

For the record, my pedal board is a TU-2, Tech 21 Killer Wail, MIJ Boss SD-1 (with a few personal tweaks, but nothing major), Ibanez Metal Charger (for brighter boost tones), MXR Phase 90 (new RI, no tweaks, may try the R28 thing), and a Boss Chorus Pedal (I think it's a CH-1, not sure). I have a beat to crap DD5 in my effects loop, I don't know how it got in the shape it's in, but I got it cheap because of it... So, nothing in my setup has anything "boutique-y" going on. I may get a RAT to replace the Metal Charger, or I may build my own Rat-ish or Guv'nor-ish pedal to go on there.

Later,
Roger
 
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I picked up a FAB Distortion today. Brought it home and A/B'd it too all my original vintage pedals til it sounded like one of them.
It comes closest to sounding like my old MXR Distortion+, with the same thing I don't like about that pedal. Too shrill sounding for single coils or P90's. Not too bad on a dark sounding Les Paul though.
 
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Yeah, I picked up one of those at the same time I got my Overdrive, it didn't thrill me nearly as much as the OD so I took it back. Yeah, I know, it was only $15 but that's 3-4 sets of strings! I thought it was thicker than a D+, almost too much so.
 
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Yeah but an easy pedal to mod:)
Have a DOD 250 and I modded that one with three germanium diodes, and changed the cap at the OP-Amp, plus changed the OP-amp to an older than dirt 741 chip.
Made it very sweet with three measly components changed.
Niels
 
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The D+ and DOD 250 are easy to mod, not the Dano Fab Distortion, those things use 0603 or smaller SMT stuff, pretty much impossible to work on by hand.
 
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I've got a dano fab circuit here, but no enclosure for it. I might give it a mod shot, but its kidna useless without the enclosure for it. I'll have to see if I can get a hold of the guy who gave me the circuit in the first place.
 
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can someone make a comparison to existing pedals the Fab-OD sounds like? Is it TS-ish? SOD-ish?
 
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Jeff, bro, if you stomp on pedals as hard as you play guitar, you'll squish these things like a penny under train (as in locomotive) wheels. :laugh2:
 
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