Dave Murray and victory amps

[DankStar]

I had to do a search cause I felt the latest maiden tones were a bit off. I personally think they are too dark and muffled on the album. I would have guessed orange amps, but looks like dave went with another English variety, victory amps.

While I don't know that their jmp-1 days were the best, I'd think with their kind of dough they'd invest in some killer vintage Marshalls.

http://www.victoryamps.com/whats-new/v100-played-by-dave-murray-on-iron-maidens-the-book-of-souls

 

[Archer250]

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I'd say the problem lies in production more than anything else.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

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Agreed, wouldn't blame the amp for the muddiness...but still...

 

[vinta9e]

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I'd think with their kind of dough they'd invest in some killer vintage Marshalls.

With their kind of dough they could afford a roomful of amps and play the most inspiring one.

You see, vintage Marshalls don't have the gain for this while modern ones don't have the guts.

The master is warm and tape-like. Bump it up with a high shelving filter if it sounds muddy on your gear.

 

[DankStar]

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yeah, probably just the overall production/mastering.

interesting he chose to go back to a head/cab setup.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Every time Maiden't tones seem off it's because they deviated away from Marshall. Their GK period was the worst.

It also doesn't help that they're trying to blend three guitar players together, all with similar tones. Everyone knows they sounded more defined with just Murray and Smith. But now it's too late....they can't really fire Jannick.

 

[DankStar]

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Every time Maiden't tones seem off it's because they deviated away from Marshall. Their GK period was the worst.

It also doesn't help that they're trying to blend three guitar players together, all with similar tones. Everyone knows they sounded more defined with just Murray and Smith. But now it's too late....they can't really fire Jannick.

I actually liked the somewhere in time tones, but they were pretty weird compared to their typical marshall sound.

yeah, I think they need to do some EQ oddities to get 3 guitars to fit. there's at least one solo/harmony part that comes in that's like being played through a telephone ear piece speaker, and I don't think it was to deliberately sound old-timey.

 

[Archer250]

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Every time Maiden't tones seem off it's because they deviated away from Marshall. Their GK period was the worst.

It also doesn't help that they're trying to blend three guitar players together, all with similar tones. Everyone knows they sounded more defined with just Murray and Smith. But now it's too late....they can't really fire Jannick.

Yeah, but the production on Seventh Son was great, and made for a classic album, and one of their bests.

 

[P.A.Foholic]

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I actually love SIT and Seventh Son. Great riffs, epic melodies and Seventh's production is superb.

The problem with Book Of Souls is mastering in my opinion. Trying to listen it with good hifi and it sounds awful. At least the 180g vinyl sounds decent.

 

[Shooter.556]

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The Victory Amps Chappers had on were pretty sweet I thought. I talked to the Captain (Lee Anderton) (super cool guy by the way) about ordering one but its was retarded expensive getting it to the states. That'e when they first burst on the scene and they were playing them on every video. I ordered a new Les Paul instead and abandonded that dream. If you can get them in the states now though I'd be interested in one.

 

[allbutromeo]

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They have 4 US distributors according to their site. 2 in NY, 1 in California, and one in Minnesota

 

[El Supremo]

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Yeah, but the production on Seventh Son was great, and made for a classic album, and one of their bests.

+1 I dig SIT too. Adrian's solo on Stranger In A Strange Land is one of my all time favorites. The way it starts, builds, goes off, just completely epic.
Gonna have to pick up BOS on vinyl this week.

 

[Myaccount876]

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Yeah, but the production on Seventh Son was great, and made for a classic album, and one of their bests.

Seventh Son? Really? I always hated the sound on that album because it seemed too synth-laden and '80s cheese. I do like Somewhere In Time though, because I think the songs are stronger on that album than Seventh Son.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

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I liked Seventh son..yeah, the synth meant a departure from the Maiden sound up to that point, but Somewhere in time was already a departure before that. Being old enough to have actually (insanely) anticipated the release of both those albums....Somewhere in Time was probably the bigger change. They did'nt really want themselves associated with synth/keys at the time ..probably apprehensive of how it would be received by fans. So Somewhere in Time was touted as having guitar synth on it as opposed to "keyboards" & the positive reception of that album by the fans paved the way for them to step out and use actual keyboards on Seventh Son. Personally I thought that album sounded pretty cool..I mean if you look at the sounds/production their peers like Priest & Saxon were using at the time..it would be criminal to call Maiden 'cheesy' by comparison :lmao:

As for the Book of Souls production ..I love it. No complaints whatsoever ..everything about it sounds ****ing excellent to my ears and I play my stuff through what would generally be considered "good hi-fi" ..def nothing muddy about it at all. In the end it's probably subjective and I suppose, compared to the average modern production it's "different" (but that's "in a good way" to me..).

 

[IMENATOR]

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I will bite the bullet: My favorite Maiden tone is Fear of the Dark just because it is kind of different to other albums and I think is their heavier tone ever. And their tone in book of souls is not my favorite for sure.

 

[Lampy H]

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I like Seventh Son, but it's not on the same level as their classic albums.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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I did not care for Somewhere in Time or 7th Son. That started the "sing-along-songs" period IMO, and frankly, IMO, Bruce's return has focused on those.

In my opinion, the last studio album Iron Maiden put out that was worth a damn was Powerslave. It had nothing to do with what amps, guitars, pickups, or pedals they were using, or the production. There were great songs and solid musicianship from start to finish. With Somewhere In Time, it seemed Bruce had gotten very fond of hearing his own voice. When 7th Son came out, it was more evident, and I would not be surprised if it was a part of the reason he left. As well, Steve Harris' fondness for writing songs based on books he'd read had reached too far with The Loneliness Of The Long-Distance Runner.

I'm still waiting for the album featuring song titles like "5 Pillars of Total Quality Management", "6-Sigma Explained", and "How To Win Friends and Influence People".

I suppose I should be glad he hasn't written song based on Mein Kampf, or the "Twilight" series.


I am a huge Iron Maiden fan from the early 80s. I had multiple copies of the first 2 albums and Maiden Japan, but right about 1987, they lost something and did not get it back IMO.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

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^^ I agree with the fact that Powerslave was the last true full on maiden madness! Although I have to say the production played a HUGE role in conveying those songs so well...it is my favourite album for both of those reasons.

 

[Archer250]

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I did not care for Somewhere in Time or 7th Son. That started the "sing-along-songs" period IMO, and frankly, IMO, Bruce's return has focused on those.

In my opinion, the last studio album Iron Maiden put out that was worth a damn was Powerslave. It had nothing to do with what amps, guitars, pickups, or pedals they were using, or the production. There were great songs and solid musicianship from start to finish. With Somewhere In Time, it seemed Bruce had gotten very fond of hearing his own voice. When 7th Son came out, it was more evident, and I would not be surprised if it was a part of the reason he left. As well, Steve Harris' fondness for writing songs based on books he'd read had reached too far with The Loneliness Of The Long-Distance Runner.

I'm still waiting for the album featuring song titles like "5 Pillars of Total Quality Management", "6-Sigma Explained", and "How To Win Friends and Influence People".

I suppose I should be glad he hasn't written song based on Mein Kampf, or the "Twilight" series.


I am a huge Iron Maiden fan from the early 80s. I had multiple copies of the first 2 albums and Maiden Japan, but right about 1987, they lost something and did not get it back IMO.

I actually want to hear a song based on Mein Kampf.

 

[LazNovak]

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I LOVE Maiden. I think all of the 80s records sound great. I also love what they did with Somewhere in Time. They created an Outer Space/Out of Time vibe on the record with the production. It blew me away in '86.

To me, Piece of Mind, Powerslave and Somewhere in Time is the Great Iron Maiden Trilogy.

I just like how each album sounds different but I'll have to say that Kevin Shirley isn't doing the best job capturing the 3 guitars and don't get me started on the drums...A Matter of Life and Death sounds the best out of the latest albums.