De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
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Boogie Bill
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
I would say...don't repair the pickguard. Remove it, set it aside. Include it in a resale. You will never be able to make it original, or the repairs invisible.
Mount the electronics in a "new" guard. You could see if Fender Custom Shop can make you up something aged, or just go with a new Chandler, etc.
Continue to search for a vintage-correct guard. There is a Japanese company that specializes nice vintage Strat parts. They advertise in Vintage Guitar Magazine. A vintage guard, even if not original, should give you your best resale.
I would call a vintage guitar dealer or two and follow their recommendations. But the original guard is a lost cause, IMO.
Good luck.
Bill
I would say...don't repair the pickguard. Remove it, set it aside. Include it in a resale. You will never be able to make it original, or the repairs invisible.
Mount the electronics in a "new" guard. You could see if Fender Custom Shop can make you up something aged, or just go with a new Chandler, etc.
Continue to search for a vintage-correct guard. There is a Japanese company that specializes nice vintage Strat parts. They advertise in Vintage Guitar Magazine. A vintage guard, even if not original, should give you your best resale.
I would call a vintage guitar dealer or two and follow their recommendations. But the original guard is a lost cause, IMO.
Good luck.
Bill
ItsaBass
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
It's not that I'm really "worked up" over anything you've done to the guitar. It's that I think is ridiculous that you are harshly criticizing someone else for their poor decision making possibly 30 years ago, while you yourself are making even worse decisions today, with far more information easily available to you...all while incorrectly stating that you are helping this guitar's monetary value. The repair itself? Who really cares what it looks like; it's a '70's Strat, and it's yours to do with as you please. Most of all, I think it is ridiculous the way you are portraying the roles of both the previous modder and yourself in this guitar's long history.
The previous owner had a non-collectible tool, and he took steps that he thought would make it a better tool. That decision was probably made at a time when the entire reason '50's and '60's Fenders were becoming valuable is because guitars like the one you ended up with were so bad. You can like his mods or not; it's irrelevant to my point. The point is that they probably weren't dumb mods to him, and they were made on what was largely viewed as a relatively crappy guitar up until about five or ten years ago. He isn't necessarily a fool for making those mods.
You, on the other hand, have the advantage of hindsight, not to mention an entire world of research and learning right at your fingertips, without even having to leave your house. You know that this guitar has become more collectible over the years, because it's now, not then. You can look to the past; the previous modder could not have looked into the future. You also could have done enough research to either learn how to do such repair work with quality and class, or to find someone who can. I mean, seriously. Plugging holes in plastic with filler, and then going over it with paint? Come on. If you wanted to do a simple repair, all you had to do was get a piece of matching plastic and a plug cutter. You even could have done it in such a way that it was reversible to the holey state.
So, given what each of you was capable of knowing at the times you made your respective mods, which of you has really made the worse decision here? Bad decisions happen, of course, and it isn't the end of the world either way. But if you are gonna talk such arrogant crap about someone else's bad decisions, then don't turn around and throw your own not only bad, but also ignorant ones on top of it.
What I find retarded here is that you seem to be into the monetary value of this guitar as an antique, and you arrogantly criticize someone else in the past for killing its value. Yet at the same time, you paint yourself as the guitar's "restorer," and as the one who undoing "de-valu[ing]" mods, while yourself doing poor work on it that either doesn't improve its value, or reduces it even farther. Do what you want to it, but if you are calling the previous guy a dummy while you are doing what you're doing, you need a reality check.
It's not that I'm really "worked up" over anything you've done to the guitar. It's that I think is ridiculous that you are harshly criticizing someone else for their poor decision making possibly 30 years ago, while you yourself are making even worse decisions today, with far more information easily available to you...all while incorrectly stating that you are helping this guitar's monetary value. The repair itself? Who really cares what it looks like; it's a '70's Strat, and it's yours to do with as you please. Most of all, I think it is ridiculous the way you are portraying the roles of both the previous modder and yourself in this guitar's long history.
The previous owner had a non-collectible tool, and he took steps that he thought would make it a better tool. That decision was probably made at a time when the entire reason '50's and '60's Fenders were becoming valuable is because guitars like the one you ended up with were so bad. You can like his mods or not; it's irrelevant to my point. The point is that they probably weren't dumb mods to him, and they were made on what was largely viewed as a relatively crappy guitar up until about five or ten years ago. He isn't necessarily a fool for making those mods.
You, on the other hand, have the advantage of hindsight, not to mention an entire world of research and learning right at your fingertips, without even having to leave your house. You know that this guitar has become more collectible over the years, because it's now, not then. You can look to the past; the previous modder could not have looked into the future. You also could have done enough research to either learn how to do such repair work with quality and class, or to find someone who can. I mean, seriously. Plugging holes in plastic with filler, and then going over it with paint? Come on. If you wanted to do a simple repair, all you had to do was get a piece of matching plastic and a plug cutter. You even could have done it in such a way that it was reversible to the holey state.
So, given what each of you was capable of knowing at the times you made your respective mods, which of you has really made the worse decision here? Bad decisions happen, of course, and it isn't the end of the world either way. But if you are gonna talk such arrogant crap about someone else's bad decisions, then don't turn around and throw your own not only bad, but also ignorant ones on top of it.
What I find retarded here is that you seem to be into the monetary value of this guitar as an antique, and you arrogantly criticize someone else in the past for killing its value. Yet at the same time, you paint yourself as the guitar's "restorer," and as the one who undoing "de-valu[ing]" mods, while yourself doing poor work on it that either doesn't improve its value, or reduces it even farther. Do what you want to it, but if you are calling the previous guy a dummy while you are doing what you're doing, you need a reality check.
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Jethro_Dull
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
Just for clarification, could you MAKE UP several MORE assumptions? You have no CLUE what I'm going to do with this pickguard, or a replacement pickguard or what I thought of the original owner or what I think of myself. Rock on, ItsaBadAssumption.
Just for clarification, could you MAKE UP several MORE assumptions? You have no CLUE what I'm going to do with this pickguard, or a replacement pickguard or what I thought of the original owner or what I think of myself. Rock on, ItsaBadAssumption.
Jethro_Dull
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
not necessarily, but there are a lot of people who know a lot about tech stuff, repairs etc.
There is no harm in asking for advice or a second opinion, ESPECIALLY when it comes to preserving the value of a vintage instrument.
Again, you're being needlessly defensive.
not necessarily, but there are a lot of people who know a lot about tech stuff, repairs etc.
There is no harm in asking for advice or a second opinion, ESPECIALLY when it comes to preserving the value of a vintage instrument.
Again, you're being needlessly defensive.
ItsaBass
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
I'm not assuming anything, except for that you wrote what you meant and meant what you wrote. I just read and understand English (and pictures):
Thread title: "De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat"
You not liking what I am saying does not equate with me assuming things.
I'm not assuming anything, except for that you wrote what you meant and meant what you wrote. I just read and understand English (and pictures):
Thread title: "De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat"
You not liking what I am saying does not equate with me assuming things.
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Jethro_Dull
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Re: De-modding some dumb mods on a vintage Strat
Quit wasting my time.
Quit wasting my time.
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