Not bothered. It was a meta comment. Do you need me to explain it to you?
Dead Sounding Guitar
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Not bothered. It was a meta comment. Do you need me to explain it to you?
Maybe not "bothered", but you were (in your words) "galled" by it (which, if I understand correctly, means "irritated").
Only if you feel you need to. I'll be glad to listen to your rant of rationalization. But I'm more inclined to just say "get over it", and be done with it.
Ok, so you didn't understand it.
Your assumption that LTD owners would be offended by your negative opinion of the guitars, is a slight against their character, not against the guitars.
Most adults accept that not everyone likes the same things that they do. But you were suggesting that LTD owners would not be "adult" and would be upset fanboys because your opinion was different.
And I certainly am not upset.
If I dislike something, I'm not going to preface with "owners of this product arent going to like me for saying this'". (That is a bit of flame baiting, actually.) I just accept that everyone has their own opinions and they won't think negatively of me for expressing a different opinion. We are adults after all.
In retrospect, you got the response/attention you were seeking in your original flame bait.
Hsb
Well-known member
So I will start small and if the changes Im going to make doesnt help, Ill revisit what to do next, have a new Dimarzio push/pull pot and mm 37mm FR block along w some noiseless springs in my Sweetwater cart. Im not expecting much out of these changes but it surely cant hurt to give them a try and not really expecting the springs to do much of anything tone wise.
One thing I swapped, which was super cheap and may have had a positive impact on tone, was the trem claw mounting screws. I swapped them to brass wood screws from Home Depot.
The original screws that shipped were stripped and made of cheap metal. If swapping parts, the mounting screws are as likely to have an effect as the springs.
The reason I posted that preface was so I WOULDN'T get the hate posts that you're giving me.
Grow up and get a life.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
I tried that and still didn't like the feel. The Sophia just seemed perfect right out of the box.
Brass claw screws could make a positive improvement in tone transfer into body. The trem only touches the body in two places, the posts, and these screws.
I replaced them on this guitar because the stock screws were stripped. These are a bit larger diameter.
The vibration of the springs after the tone block could impart some of the spring resonance into the body. I really have no idea, but its an easy thing to do.
I replaced them on this guitar because the stock screws were stripped. These are a bit larger diameter.
The vibration of the springs after the tone block could impart some of the spring resonance into the body. I really have no idea, but its an easy thing to do.
After the string vibration goes through the trem, the block, the springs, and the claw there will not be enough vibration left to go through the screws to have any impact on the tone.
If the screws were stripped (which I can't imagine would happen just sitting in wood) you wouldn't need to use larger screws, just replace the screws with new ones (same size). But
replacing with larger screws when the holes are stripped is a good suggestion. But my preference would be to repair the stripped holes in the wood and replace the existing screws.
If the screws were stripped (which I can't imagine would happen just sitting in wood) you wouldn't need to use larger screws, just replace the screws with new ones (same size). But
replacing with larger screws when the holes are stripped is a good suggestion. But my preference would be to repair the stripped holes in the wood and replace the existing screws.
But I must say, if the guitar is "dead sounding", replacing minor hardware parts (screws, springs, claws, blocks, etc) isn't going to fix it. It appears to be obvious that the entire trem is the problem.
Either replace the trem or replace the guitar. Anything else is a waste of time and money.
Either replace the trem or replace the guitar. Anything else is a waste of time and money.
A Floyd Rose special trem has a hardend steel baseplate like the original Floyd. It differs because it has Zinc metal saddles and tone block. Replacing the tone block with an original Floyd block usually makes a noticeable difference. It sounds like the OP has already replaced the saddles. He is one tone block away from having something virtually identical to an original Floyd.
I am just trying to save him money. If the tone block doesn't improve the guitar then he should sell it. Not invest in a new trem.
I almost agree.
Sometimes, if you know that there is a major part of the tone equation that is inferior, replacing that part should make an improvement. I never suggested that he should try replacing parts THEN replace the entire trem or guitar. But just randomly replacing many parts to see if it helps may not save any money at all. And, in fact, if you then end up selling the guitar, it has cost you more time and money and you will never get that back.
Hsb
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Gonna try a couple less expensive things first, new tone block, different 500k volume pot amd some steel strings to see if it helps any.
If those dont do it, Ill consider other avenues, including, as someone suggested, active pickups or a whole new trem system or ultimately selling/trading it.
And thanks for all the suggestions and help, its been really appreciated
If those dont do it, Ill consider other avenues, including, as someone suggested, active pickups or a whole new trem system or ultimately selling/trading it.
And thanks for all the suggestions and help, its been really appreciated
ehdwuld
A Ficus
I would image nylon strings making an electric a bit Dead sounding LOL
I was surprised at what phosphore Bronse sounds like on a strat
The wound g string
Hsb- Also check the value of the volume pot. My M400 didn't sound correct until I swapped the vol pot to a 250K (because there is no tone control). Its hard to explain, but the single 500K volume that shipped with it made the guitar sound less focused. There was always something wrong with the tone no matter what pickup I used.
I eventually wound up putting a 500K push pull, with a series of resistors to simulate a tone control. There is a thread in here somewhere where the forum helped me figure that out. Also replaced the stock 3-way that was dodgy.
I eventually wound up putting a 500K push pull, with a series of resistors to simulate a tone control. There is a thread in here somewhere where the forum helped me figure that out. Also replaced the stock 3-way that was dodgy.
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