Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
It looks to me like you have a lot of room in the neck pocket for some adjustments. You might be able to get away with either scale length. If the guitar was originally 25 & you try a 24.75, that might not work because the neck with have to fit farther back in the mortise and may take some of the space for the neck pup.
Basically what I'm getting at is that you could slide your neck back & forth in the mortise to set the scale length.
It looks to me like you have a lot of room in the neck pocket for some adjustments. You might be able to get away with either scale length. If the guitar was originally 25 & you try a 24.75, that might not work because the neck with have to fit farther back in the mortise and may take some of the space for the neck pup.
Basically what I'm getting at is that you could slide your neck back & forth in the mortise to set the scale length.
CTN
The Drama Dude
Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
While there is probably room enough in the neck pocket for either scale length, sliding the same neck back and forth is NOT how you set a scale length.
You decide on a scale length, and cut everything (neck pocket, tenon, fret slots, nut slot, bridge mounting position) to work with that scale length. If a fretboard is slotted for a 24.75" scale, sliding the neck 0.25" towards the nut does not make it a 25" scale, rather, it makes it a 24.75" scale that's been f*cked up, and it will never intonate properly.
While there is probably room enough in the neck pocket for either scale length, sliding the same neck back and forth is NOT how you set a scale length.
You decide on a scale length, and cut everything (neck pocket, tenon, fret slots, nut slot, bridge mounting position) to work with that scale length. If a fretboard is slotted for a 24.75" scale, sliding the neck 0.25" towards the nut does not make it a 25" scale, rather, it makes it a 24.75" scale that's been f*cked up, and it will never intonate properly.
jtougas
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
Umm, actually it would work, but the window for being right is about .01" (give or take the leeway afforded by the saddles in the bridge). A bridge is just a fixed point. This is why you can buy baritone scale necks from Warmoth, and put 'em on your Strat. The question is whether or not you'd have enough support under the heel, and if you'd lose any space for pickups.
Umm, actually it would work, but the window for being right is about .01" (give or take the leeway afforded by the saddles in the bridge). A bridge is just a fixed point. This is why you can buy baritone scale necks from Warmoth, and put 'em on your Strat. The question is whether or not you'd have enough support under the heel, and if you'd lose any space for pickups.
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The Drama Dude
Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
yes, but the warmoth baritone necks are purpose built for whatever scale length they are to fit in that neck pocket and are slotted/fretted for that scale length. It's not a 25.5" neck that was slid away until it reached for example a 28" scale length.
yes, but the warmoth baritone necks are purpose built for whatever scale length they are to fit in that neck pocket and are slotted/fretted for that scale length. It's not a 25.5" neck that was slid away until it reached for example a 28" scale length.
jtougas
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
Exactly.
As long as the nut is the correct distance from the bridge, he'll be fine.
For all intents and purposes the body is a clean slate. *IF* the OP can make a wedge that brings the neck to the proper angle, and supports the heel enough, and doesn't look like ass, he'll be fine.
Is it the ideal way to build a guitar? No, and I don't recommend it, but skillfully done, it will work.
Exactly.
As long as the nut is the correct distance from the bridge, he'll be fine.
For all intents and purposes the body is a clean slate. *IF* the OP can make a wedge that brings the neck to the proper angle, and supports the heel enough, and doesn't look like ass, he'll be fine.
Is it the ideal way to build a guitar? No, and I don't recommend it, but skillfully done, it will work.
BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
I would imagine they have a rosewood board though, which would rule them out. I will check it out though, maybe they could build me a neck?
I would imagine they have a rosewood board though, which would rule them out. I will check it out though, maybe they could build me a neck?
BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
I get what you're saying. This would work for a 25.5 better than a 24.75. It would be easier to extend the distance between the nut and 12th fret than it would be to crowd the electronics. Unless you took .25" off the bottom of the heel...hmmmmm
I get what you're saying. This would work for a 25.5 better than a 24.75. It would be easier to extend the distance between the nut and 12th fret than it would be to crowd the electronics. Unless you took .25" off the bottom of the heel...hmmmmm
BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
This is the best I could do. I no longer have the 24.75 set neck. I traced it though. This is the 25.5" neck adjusted so that bridge to 12th fret equals 12.75".
This is the best I could do. I no longer have the 24.75 set neck. I traced it though. This is the 25.5" neck adjusted so that bridge to 12th fret equals 12.75".
jtougas
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Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
Looks like you'd be able to fit a 24 fret neck in there... How well supported is the heel? Not very, by the looks of it.
Otherwise, you'll need something to fill that void between the end of the neck and the p'up pocket... And some way to hide it in the finish.
It also looks like the neck is a hair wider than the neck pocket...
Looks like you'd be able to fit a 24 fret neck in there... How well supported is the heel? Not very, by the looks of it.
Otherwise, you'll need something to fill that void between the end of the neck and the p'up pocket... And some way to hide it in the finish.
It also looks like the neck is a hair wider than the neck pocket...
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BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
This is just a bolt on 25.5" neck I have lying around. It would need a heel and a larger pocket. But, it's a start!
This is just a bolt on 25.5" neck I have lying around. It would need a heel and a larger pocket. But, it's a start!
BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
I don't know about that.... jtougas, I think I found that kit you were talking about. BYOGuitar added some new stuff since I was last there.
If this isn't it it's damn close. And it is 25.0"...according to the description tab. The specs tab says 24.75"
http://www.byoguitar.com/Guitars/Electric-Guitar-Kit--Carved-Top-Semi-Hollow__BYO-CT-SH2.aspx
I don't know about that.... jtougas, I think I found that kit you were talking about. BYOGuitar added some new stuff since I was last there.
If this isn't it it's damn close. And it is 25.0"...according to the description tab. The specs tab says 24.75"
http://www.byoguitar.com/Guitars/Electric-Guitar-Kit--Carved-Top-Semi-Hollow__BYO-CT-SH2.aspx
BlackLantern
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Re: Dealing with a 25.0" scale body
He told me eBay. But he didn't have the neck or the hardware/guts. Someone probably resold the body. Anyways, it's sort of helpful seeing this now. I just tried that weird named guitar company (sorry I copy and pasted it) and kit, I think. I may have used Starcaster too.
He told me eBay. But he didn't have the neck or the hardware/guts. Someone probably resold the body. Anyways, it's sort of helpful seeing this now. I just tried that weird named guitar company (sorry I copy and pasted it) and kit, I think. I may have used Starcaster too.