Details on the Duncan '59+?

[cardinal]

I have a guitar with what the factory calls a '59+ in the neck position (guitar is a Gibson Les Paul 7 String). Does anyone know the details on this pickup?

It's a bit hotter than I'd like, and I'm trying to figure out if I could go with just the regular '59 to tame it down or if I should look at something different altogether. I already have it backed pretty far from the strings.

The bridge pickup is a JB7 which seems ok but maybe mushy. I think I prefer the Custom in my Charvel, but I'm not sure I want both guitars to sound the same. Meh.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

Try putting a UOA5 magnet in the neck and a regular thickness ceramic in the bridge.
I have Duncan Designed in my 7 string, and putting the regular ceramic in the bridge really tightened it up while giving a nice sizzle to the top. Haven't tried the UOA5 in the neck yet, though I wired mine to a push/pull for series/parallel, which sounds great. Heard of someone else who recently put one in a 6 string Jazz neck and found an improvement.

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[cardinal]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

Thanks. Good idea to try a ceramic, but wouldn't that make it kinda like the Distortion? I like that pickup for metal (a lot), but maybe not for this guitar.

Maybe I'll swap the neck magnet too, though Id probably try AII.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

distortions use a double thick ceramic

 

[Demanic]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

^^
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong, a JB with a regular ceramic is know as either a JB+ or a 'Dokkenbucker'.

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[chris effect]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

I'm curious as to what exactly the 59'+ is.. Maybe just a '59 bridge? something special Duncan made for Gibson...?

 

[LazNovak]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

^^
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong, a JB with a regular ceramic is known as either a JB+ or a 'Dokkenbucker'.

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Yeah, that's the JB+. I put in a regular ceramic recently and it considerably tightened up the JB. The UOA5 did the same to the Jazz.

The Dokkenbucker is an "unwound" Duncan Distortion.

 

[LazNovak]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?260590-Dokken-Bucker

 

[Demanic]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

Oh, okay on the 'Dokkenbucker'. I thought it was just another way of referring to the JB+.

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[cardinal]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

I'm curious as to what exactly the 59'+ is.. Maybe just a '59 bridge? something special Duncan made for Gibson...?

Yeah, that's what I'm really curious about. Guess I'll try calling Duncan to ask.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

You could try wiring the 59+ in parallel (or with a switch as Demanic suggested). This will reduce output perceived significantly, tighten up the sound, reduce boominess.

 

[cardinal]

Re: Details on the Duncan '59+?

Thanks! It's not that the '59+ sounds boomy to me. It actually sounds brighter and tighter and higher output than what I was expecting/wanted. I kinda wonder if the "+" is a ceramic magnet in there. I still need to ask Duncan and/or just crack open the pickup and see if I can tell if the mag is ceramic.

EDIT: Duncan says there's no such thing as the '59+, so it just just be a '59 and Gibson's product literature have a typo or something. Guess I'll try an A2 mag first, then maybe off to find a warmer but lower output neck pickup.