Did Jimi Hendrix...
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Boleslaw Gers 666
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Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
Maybe that's the reason for his god awful overdriven tone..... :smack:the guy who invented fire said:
Guitar Toad
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Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
Is it safe to say that around here?
The tone that many wish they could duplicate.
Boleslaw Gers 666 said:
Is it safe to say that around here?
The tone that many wish they could duplicate.
Guitar Toad
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Did Jimi really use the Big Muff? or is that just sound like Jimi marketing?
Did Jimi really use the Big Muff? or is that just sound like Jimi marketing?
accipiter
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A quote from the Rev.
GIBBONS: It was just before we formed ZZ Top. Frank Beard [drums] and Dusty Hill [bass] were working in Dallas with the American Blues, and my band, the Moving Sidewalks, had been hired to open some shows for Jimi Hendrix. At that time I was saying, "Here's the master of the Stratocaster." That domain really belongs to him. Here was an example of a player who not only developed some skills on chord structure and new chord positionings for rock music, but was also really squeezing things out of a simple guitar and amplifier setup that had not been written about in any manual. As far as I know, he was the first exponent of playing a Stratocaster in the "in between" toggle switch setting. At that time, Fender supported what he was doing as an artist. He really didn't mind playing new, out-of-the-box guitars. Fender was sending out stacks of them-I remember he once got 17 different cartons from them. They were coming so fast and furious at him with new guitars, but he had few oldies and goodies. I acquired the pink one during our time together. It was a late Fifties Strat.
http://www.guitarworld.com/allaccess/interviews/billy-gibbons-guitarodyssey.htm
A quote from the Rev.
GIBBONS: It was just before we formed ZZ Top. Frank Beard [drums] and Dusty Hill [bass] were working in Dallas with the American Blues, and my band, the Moving Sidewalks, had been hired to open some shows for Jimi Hendrix. At that time I was saying, "Here's the master of the Stratocaster." That domain really belongs to him. Here was an example of a player who not only developed some skills on chord structure and new chord positionings for rock music, but was also really squeezing things out of a simple guitar and amplifier setup that had not been written about in any manual. As far as I know, he was the first exponent of playing a Stratocaster in the "in between" toggle switch setting. At that time, Fender supported what he was doing as an artist. He really didn't mind playing new, out-of-the-box guitars. Fender was sending out stacks of them-I remember he once got 17 different cartons from them. They were coming so fast and furious at him with new guitars, but he had few oldies and goodies. I acquired the pink one during our time together. It was a late Fifties Strat.
http://www.guitarworld.com/allaccess/interviews/billy-gibbons-guitarodyssey.htm
Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
Jimi did not use a Big Muff, nor did Santana. That was marketing talk of the '70s. I think the first version of the Big Muff was the Guild Foxey Lady, which came out AFTER hendrix.
I don't have a complete list of the equipment Jimi used, but I know it included:
Vox wahs, Fuzz Faces (both the Germanium & silicon version, some modified by Roger Mayer) Mayer's Octavia, and the Univibe. I recall Mayer writing that he built special boxes that Jimi used too. I'm sure that somebody here is more of a gearoloigist than I, and can tell what other bit of gere were used by Jimi.
FYI, See Roger Mayer @ http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/
Guitar Toad said:
Jimi did not use a Big Muff, nor did Santana. That was marketing talk of the '70s. I think the first version of the Big Muff was the Guild Foxey Lady, which came out AFTER hendrix.
I don't have a complete list of the equipment Jimi used, but I know it included:
Vox wahs, Fuzz Faces (both the Germanium & silicon version, some modified by Roger Mayer) Mayer's Octavia, and the Univibe. I recall Mayer writing that he built special boxes that Jimi used too. I'm sure that somebody here is more of a gearoloigist than I, and can tell what other bit of gere were used by Jimi.
FYI, See Roger Mayer @ http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/
jimo
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Perhaps I can help----I played Strats in the 60's. You had to "balance" the selector switch between, say the middle and back positions to get what we used to call the "out of phase" sounds. They would sometimes "pop back" to another position as well. Amps didn't have master volumes back then so people tried to get a hot pickup to overdrive the front end of an amp. I remember the first "fuzz boxes" we got----didn't sound very good with chords mainly with single notes. I guess a 15 year old of today would find that very primitive. Not only that------the way you learned songs was to buy a "record" and slow it down ---and try to cop the riff off of that . NO TAB!---------as you can clearly see it was darn near impossible
--------------anybody remember an LPB-1 power booster? lol :laugh2: --------cheers!-----------JIMO :dance:
Perhaps I can help----I played Strats in the 60's. You had to "balance" the selector switch between, say the middle and back positions to get what we used to call the "out of phase" sounds. They would sometimes "pop back" to another position as well. Amps didn't have master volumes back then so people tried to get a hot pickup to overdrive the front end of an amp. I remember the first "fuzz boxes" we got----didn't sound very good with chords mainly with single notes. I guess a 15 year old of today would find that very primitive. Not only that------the way you learned songs was to buy a "record" and slow it down ---and try to cop the riff off of that . NO TAB!---------as you can clearly see it was darn near impossible
--------------anybody remember an LPB-1 power booster? lol :laugh2: --------cheers!-----------JIMO :dance:Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
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Jimo-- Yeah, I remember the LPB-1 and LPB - 2.......I played them off-and-on when they first came out and now it's one of the circuits that I mod for booster pedals
{WWW.OTTOSGUITARS.COM]. The LPB was ripped from the original Rangemaster Treble Booster circuit.
Brian.
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Jimo-- Yeah, I remember the LPB-1 and LPB - 2.......I played them off-and-on when they first came out and now it's one of the circuits that I mod for booster pedals
{WWW.OTTOSGUITARS.COM]. The LPB was ripped from the original Rangemaster Treble Booster circuit.
Brian.
Simon_F
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Next thing you'll be telling us you had to tune your guitar by ear!! :yell:
jimo said:Perhaps I can help----I played Strats in the 60's. You had to "balance" the selector switch between, say the middle and back positions to get what we used to call the "out of phase" sounds. They would sometimes "pop back" to another position as well. Amps didn't have master volumes back then so people tried to get a hot pickup to overdrive the front end of an amp. I remember the first "fuzz boxes" we got----didn't sound very good with chords mainly with single notes. I guess a 15 year old of today would find that very primitive. Not only that------the way you learned songs was to buy a "record" and slow it down ---and try to cop the riff off of that . NO TAB!---------as you can clearly see it was darn near impossible
Next thing you'll be telling us you had to tune your guitar by ear!! :yell:
guitarded50@cox.net
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I was lucky enough to see Jimi twice in '68 and read probably every interview he did and I remember him saying the only thing he changed besides turning it upside down was to bend the whammy bar BY HAND , WOW!!! Try that sometime. And yes he burned his Strat both shows so I doubt that he did anything else,they were disposable. Not like our precious 2 grand Strats that we mod to get a fraction of the Hendrix vibe. And even if Fender did drop the ball on PR I doubt if they could have been more popular and the fact Jimi bought 'em may have been more beneficial and credible than if he had been supplied by Leo. So Leo dropped the ball and still got a homerun.
I was lucky enough to see Jimi twice in '68 and read probably every interview he did and I remember him saying the only thing he changed besides turning it upside down was to bend the whammy bar BY HAND , WOW!!! Try that sometime. And yes he burned his Strat both shows so I doubt that he did anything else,they were disposable. Not like our precious 2 grand Strats that we mod to get a fraction of the Hendrix vibe. And even if Fender did drop the ball on PR I doubt if they could have been more popular and the fact Jimi bought 'em may have been more beneficial and credible than if he had been supplied by Leo. So Leo dropped the ball and still got a homerun.
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Before Hendrix' first album came out, Fender [ the company, not the man...] had made plans to discontinue production of the Strat [It was not a popular guitar in America]. However, it had been popular in England and in Europe due to Hank Marvin [of the Shadows]. Hendrix was using pre-CBS Strats all over England and Europe way before he got popular in America and Fender still had no clue. He bought his first bunch of new Strats when he returned to America......there were so many new ones laying around music stores [like Manny's] that it made it real easy to pick through them and find some good ones. His roadies also bought them......these would be picked over and rejected later.
It's interesting to note that Hendrix told Jim Marshall that he wanted to pay for all his amps and did not want any freebies......he did, however, expect all the tech help and support that Marshall had to offer.
Fender / CBS still had no desire to really pick up on a good situation and went on to blow the reputation of the Fender name all the way through the 70's.
Brian.
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Before Hendrix' first album came out, Fender [ the company, not the man...] had made plans to discontinue production of the Strat [It was not a popular guitar in America]. However, it had been popular in England and in Europe due to Hank Marvin [of the Shadows]. Hendrix was using pre-CBS Strats all over England and Europe way before he got popular in America and Fender still had no clue. He bought his first bunch of new Strats when he returned to America......there were so many new ones laying around music stores [like Manny's] that it made it real easy to pick through them and find some good ones. His roadies also bought them......these would be picked over and rejected later.
It's interesting to note that Hendrix told Jim Marshall that he wanted to pay for all his amps and did not want any freebies......he did, however, expect all the tech help and support that Marshall had to offer.
Fender / CBS still had no desire to really pick up on a good situation and went on to blow the reputation of the Fender name all the way through the 70's.
Brian.
Guitar Toad
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Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
How do we reconcile the Rev G account with the Brian Wenz information?
accipiter said:
brianwenz said:
How do we reconcile the Rev G account with the Brian Wenz information?
Re: Did Jimi Hendrix...
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As far as the Strats go,,,yeah, he got quite a few of them when he came back to America, no argument there [brand new ones too, 'cuz all he used in England were vintage 60's rosewood-board ones.] I remember it being more the case of the music stores already having them laying around as opposed to CBS / Fender sending them out especially for Hendrix to use for free. Hendrix did buy LOTS of Strats from Fender but CBS wasn't backing him with any endorsement deals.
There were plenty of guitar players who were using the "in-between" settings on Strats before Hendrix [mostly black blues players like Buddy Guy and Ike Turner]. Remember that before he went to England Hendrix was playing all over the South with different bands for years and he payed attention to all the older players [like Buddy Guy...] T-Bone Walker had been using out-of-phase settings on his Gibson archtop since the 1940's, so it wasn't a "new" sound.
Yep, Hendrix did have that maple-board 50's Strat!
To illustrate how short-sighted CBS / Fender was, look what they did right after Hendrix died........came out with the 3-bolt neck!
Brian.
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As far as the Strats go,,,yeah, he got quite a few of them when he came back to America, no argument there [brand new ones too, 'cuz all he used in England were vintage 60's rosewood-board ones.] I remember it being more the case of the music stores already having them laying around as opposed to CBS / Fender sending them out especially for Hendrix to use for free. Hendrix did buy LOTS of Strats from Fender but CBS wasn't backing him with any endorsement deals.
There were plenty of guitar players who were using the "in-between" settings on Strats before Hendrix [mostly black blues players like Buddy Guy and Ike Turner]. Remember that before he went to England Hendrix was playing all over the South with different bands for years and he payed attention to all the older players [like Buddy Guy...] T-Bone Walker had been using out-of-phase settings on his Gibson archtop since the 1940's, so it wasn't a "new" sound.
Yep, Hendrix did have that maple-board 50's Strat!
To illustrate how short-sighted CBS / Fender was, look what they did right after Hendrix died........came out with the 3-bolt neck!
Brian.
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