Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

[Ed Hunter]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

I put an A2 in my VHPAF. It is a van halen PAF like the 78.

yep so did i and another forum member here named WALT and we all agree it sounds like the 78:thanks:

 

[RayBarbeeMusic]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

I can't speak to what it would sound like modded with A2; I assume like any other 9k ish PAF with A2, which is in that ballpark.

However, that isn't what DiMarzio/Steve Blucher intended, which was my point. If you're modding it, all bets are off.

I had a Lollar high wind Imperial that was A2 and around that same DCR and I couldn't stand the thing. Possibly my least favorite pickup ever, it fought pick attack like someone stuck a cap across the output and just sounded, and more importantly, felt, awful.

Odd, because the normal wind A5 Imperials are great in certain applications. The neck version especially has a very complex tone.

I had the same experience with the Custom 5 vs the Custom Custom. Just got done putting in and removing a CC from a guitar. Tried it because I have a nickel covered one in a jazz box, where it sounds fine, sort of Larry Carlton ish, but it seems like the cover took out something I dont like because I found the uncovered version had a squeeky affect on the pick attack I just couldn't stand. Put the C5 back in, which is supposedly the same thing with A5 vs. A2 and it is a major improvement.

I've played other A2 PAFS in normal DCR levels (Gibson '57s, Bustbuckers) that sounded just fine, both covered and uncovered.

So maybe I just don't like what happens when you combine A2 and a lot of turns. The stock VHPAF with A5 is a great PAF though.

 

[Reckless Abandon]

I think it was intended. One does not put VH in from of anything guitar related unless they want Van Halen to be in the back of one's mind. The only reason there is not an A2 in it is that dimarzio does not use A2 magnets.

 

[RayBarbeeMusic]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

See above.............they didn't put VH in front of anything. Thats an abreviation we use on the net. Hot version of Virtual PAF = Virtual Hot PAF.

Edit: I just double checked, NO WHERE in the marketing literature or on the product packaging do the letters "VH" appear together. Anywhere. At any time. So if they "intended" that comparison, they sure did a poor job of creating the allusion, or they did it with a level of stealth that makes a B2 look like a neon sign.

 

[Reckless Abandon]

Did a great job or we wouldn't be arguing about it and many people (including me) would not Have bought it.

Btw. I'm sorry I have never went back and forth on a thread and did not mean to here. Not trying to be a jerk. Sorry.

 

[IanBallard]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

I can't speak to what it would sound like modded with A2; I assume like any other 9k ish PAF with A2, which is in that ballpark.

However, that isn't what DiMarzio/Steve Blucher intended, which was my point. If you're modding it, all bets are off.

I had a Lollar high wind Imperial that was A2 and around that same DCR and I couldn't stand the thing. Possibly my least favorite pickup ever, it fought pick attack like someone stuck a cap across the output and just sounded, and more importantly, felt, awful.

Odd, because the normal wind A5 Imperials are great in certain applications. The neck version especially has a very complex tone.

I had the same experience with the Custom 5 vs the Custom Custom. Just got done putting in and removing a CC from a guitar. Tried it because I have a nickel covered one in a jazz box, where it sounds fine, sort of Larry Carlton ish, but it seems like the cover took out something I dont like because I found the uncovered version had a squeeky affect on the pick attack I just couldn't stand. Put the C5 back in, which is supposedly the same thing with A5 vs. A2 and it is a major improvement.

I've played other A2 PAFS in normal DCR levels (Gibson '57s, Bustbuckers) that sounded just fine, both covered and uncovered.

So maybe I just don't like what happens when you combine A2 and a lot of turns. The stock VHPAF with A5 is a great PAF though.

This is what I found as well. I've used a lot of different pickups in my favorite Partscaster: Stock Squier ceramic, Super Distortion (later tried it with an A2 mag and a spacer... didn't like it), a CC, a TB59 and homemade C/59 hybrid with A2, A8 and A5 and now it has a cream Air Zone.

Of all those pickups, I liked the FEEL and pick attack of the A5 pickups the best. Somewhere I read Steve Blucher commenting on how the A5 is their favorite because it's magnetic field is stable, the output and feel is good but the magnet isn't too strong, as to affect sustain. With the air mod and some tweaking of the coil winds, they can get amazing mids and a softer feel out of an A5 without sacrificing bass response (Tone Zone, PAF Pro, etc) and harmonic presence. I never cared for the feel of A2 and other unoriented magnets, just like I don't like the "stiff" feel of ceramic and A8 magnets. The A5 seems to be just the right balance.

 

[papersoul]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

Does the bridge bucker handle high gain like Tool or Alice in Chains? I am trying to decide between this, the Brobucker and 59/Custom.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

The guy in Tool and the guy from AIC got their classic tones using JB pickups so you may want to go that direction.

THe 36ths can do it but are a different flavour.

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Dimarzio PAF 36th Anniversary?

The 36th's can handle a good amount of distortion. You could do either Tool or AIC.