Mr 9finger
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
That sorta looks like the tab for the opening to "it's not love"
That sorta looks like the tab for the opening to "it's not love"
Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
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ErikH
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Yup, that's it, except I don't recall hearing that arpeggiated part there at the end. I was thinking it was a song off Wicked Sensation that he had said in the paragraph below. That's how it seemed to me. I never thought about going back to that record....lol.9finger said:
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
OK - let's get for real here. Your DD rocks. Now hit the wood shed! You are the one who has to rock it!!!!
Ozz - Get out there and learn Mr. Crowley. Wicked-Bad w/ the DD!
Queensryche - Empire?!?! Pay ATTENTION: Revolution Calling and Eyes of a Stranger - DD rocks the dirty and the Clean on that.
Lynch - this may be cliche, but the first riffage outta my DD in that school was Mr. Scary. However - in a pinch, When Heaven Comes Down will do.
You've got great taste in pups, kid -we can work on the repetiore...
OK - let's get for real here. Your DD rocks. Now hit the wood shed! You are the one who has to rock it!!!!
Ozz - Get out there and learn Mr. Crowley. Wicked-Bad w/ the DD!
Queensryche - Empire?!?! Pay ATTENTION: Revolution Calling and Eyes of a Stranger - DD rocks the dirty and the Clean on that.
Lynch - this may be cliche, but the first riffage outta my DD in that school was Mr. Scary. However - in a pinch, When Heaven Comes Down will do.
You've got great taste in pups, kid -we can work on the repetiore...
H
heymcz
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Oops, sorry. Context is everything, I guess. Yeah, it is "It's Not Love" from the "Under Lock and Key" album by Dokken on Electra Records (1985)...the arpeggio sounds cool--and I'm either sure I saw Lynch do it live in '96, or it was something I made up.:13: Another cool variation is to raise the note on the G-string in the last chord from 5th fret to 7th and then do the arpeggio....
|0------|
|-0-----|
|--7----|
|---4---|
|----0--|
|-------|
...that one I made up for sure.
Personally, I think Lynch Mob II bites, tone-wise and song-wise, that's when he started using the Demon on records. Erik, you like it better?!?! To each his own....
The older Dokken stuff is okay, but sounds very dated to me; Wicked Sensation is still fresh and IMHO is his best, tone and tunes. That's why I would recommend that Pierre start there and work backwards if he likes it. Back for the Attack was a solid album but little was memorable, Lock and Key had a few great tunes and some utter crap ("Will the Sun Rise", anyone?)...and there's like two good cuts on Tooth and Nail. Your mileage may vary of course.
ErikH said:
Oops, sorry. Context is everything, I guess. Yeah, it is "It's Not Love" from the "Under Lock and Key" album by Dokken on Electra Records (1985)...the arpeggio sounds cool--and I'm either sure I saw Lynch do it live in '96, or it was something I made up.:13: Another cool variation is to raise the note on the G-string in the last chord from 5th fret to 7th and then do the arpeggio....
|0------|
|-0-----|
|--7----|
|---4---|
|----0--|
|-------|
...that one I made up for sure.
Personally, I think Lynch Mob II bites, tone-wise and song-wise, that's when he started using the Demon on records. Erik, you like it better?!?! To each his own....
The older Dokken stuff is okay, but sounds very dated to me; Wicked Sensation is still fresh and IMHO is his best, tone and tunes. That's why I would recommend that Pierre start there and work backwards if he likes it. Back for the Attack was a solid album but little was memorable, Lock and Key had a few great tunes and some utter crap ("Will the Sun Rise", anyone?)...and there's like two good cuts on Tooth and Nail. Your mileage may vary of course.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
The arpeggio is pretty cool. I could see that as something he'd throw in there during a concert just to keep things interesting. He was notorious for doing that anyway.
I wouldn't say I like it better than WS, but I do like it. There's some catchy songs on there. I really like the solo work on "Dream Until Tomorrow". The cover of "Tie Your Mother Down" just kicks major tail. I really like that one.
The only Dokken stuff that sounds dated to me is, well, the first 2 records. That's simply because of the mixing done. I would love to hear the European mix of Tooth And Nail. He recorded that with just his Marshall pushed with a Dallas Rangemaster and word is the tone was to die for, better than the mix we got here in the States. They had to "rework" things for some rediculous reason so it's all processed sounding and kills the natural tone.
The arpeggio is pretty cool. I could see that as something he'd throw in there during a concert just to keep things interesting. He was notorious for doing that anyway.
I wouldn't say I like it better than WS, but I do like it. There's some catchy songs on there. I really like the solo work on "Dream Until Tomorrow". The cover of "Tie Your Mother Down" just kicks major tail. I really like that one.
The only Dokken stuff that sounds dated to me is, well, the first 2 records. That's simply because of the mixing done. I would love to hear the European mix of Tooth And Nail. He recorded that with just his Marshall pushed with a Dallas Rangemaster and word is the tone was to die for, better than the mix we got here in the States. They had to "rework" things for some rediculous reason so it's all processed sounding and kills the natural tone.
Pierre
Stratologist
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Jeeze guys thanks, as if I'm not broke enough I'm being threatened to buy these CDs :laugh2:
Ahhh Eyes of a Stranger is one of my favorite Queensryche songs. I'll just have to learn it. I used to know the intro at some point...
Jeeze guys thanks, as if I'm not broke enough I'm being threatened to buy these CDs :laugh2:
Ahhh Eyes of a Stranger is one of my favorite Queensryche songs. I'll just have to learn it. I used to know the intro at some point...
Animal
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
My guitar has a licensed floyd rose, is bolt on, and has a maple neck. Typical Jackson super strat style. Not to say that the Distortion isn't overly bright by itself however it doesn't exactly match up well with a guitar that has a bright/thin sound.
What kind of wood is your Kramer copy made of? I think the Distortion would be perfectly suited for an explorer type guitar with a big body and tune-o-matic bridge. If I ever got a Les Paul or Explorer an SH-6 would be at very the top of my list to try out in the bridge position.
The Parallel Axis model will only fit correctly in a guitar with tremspacing used.
One of the main purposes of the Parallel Axis design is to add meat and sustain to a Floyd-rose equipped guitar that lacks in those tonal departments due to loss of resonance.
I'm not too sure if this design would be beneficial to non-trem equipped guitars which could possibly be one of SD's reasons for only making them available as trembuckers. If most fixed bridge guitars don't suffer the same sort of resonance deficiency that a lot of trem guitars do then there probably isn't much of a market for a regular spaced Parallel Axis.
Mr Wolf said:
My guitar has a licensed floyd rose, is bolt on, and has a maple neck. Typical Jackson super strat style. Not to say that the Distortion isn't overly bright by itself however it doesn't exactly match up well with a guitar that has a bright/thin sound.
What kind of wood is your Kramer copy made of? I think the Distortion would be perfectly suited for an explorer type guitar with a big body and tune-o-matic bridge. If I ever got a Les Paul or Explorer an SH-6 would be at very the top of my list to try out in the bridge position.
The Parallel Axis model will only fit correctly in a guitar with tremspacing used.
One of the main purposes of the Parallel Axis design is to add meat and sustain to a Floyd-rose equipped guitar that lacks in those tonal departments due to loss of resonance.
I'm not too sure if this design would be beneficial to non-trem equipped guitars which could possibly be one of SD's reasons for only making them available as trembuckers. If most fixed bridge guitars don't suffer the same sort of resonance deficiency that a lot of trem guitars do then there probably isn't much of a market for a regular spaced Parallel Axis.
Pierre
Stratologist
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Nope. The specs say Basswood. The neck throughs (5 and 6) were maple with Poplar wings though.
It could be another wood for all I know, they weren't 100% consistent then. But I always heard and saw basswood on the catalogues. All the JCF agrees with this as well. I never checked personally though. I don't get where you got Alder from though, no one ever mentioned it for the model series.
Zerb's a snob, he only knows US Jacksons
I'm cheap so I have two of these models series instead hehe...
Nope. The specs say Basswood. The neck throughs (5 and 6) were maple with Poplar wings though.
It could be another wood for all I know, they weren't 100% consistent then. But I always heard and saw basswood on the catalogues. All the JCF agrees with this as well. I never checked personally though. I don't get where you got Alder from though, no one ever mentioned it for the model series.
Zerb's a snob, he only knows US Jacksons
I'm cheap so I have two of these models series instead hehe...
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Danglin' Fury
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
What's up with the REAL metal like Cannibal Corpse or Prong or Crowbar? Or maybe even, dare I say it, Pantera. Dime was a WAY better guitarist than Lynch. Also if you want some more good metal, try Down, Acid Bath, C.O.C., Lamb of God, Between the Buried and Me, Bolt Thrower, Dead to Fall, Goatwhore. Believe it or not, the Distortion does all these bands well also with the right eq.:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
What's up with the REAL metal like Cannibal Corpse or Prong or Crowbar? Or maybe even, dare I say it, Pantera. Dime was a WAY better guitarist than Lynch. Also if you want some more good metal, try Down, Acid Bath, C.O.C., Lamb of God, Between the Buried and Me, Bolt Thrower, Dead to Fall, Goatwhore. Believe it or not, the Distortion does all these bands well also with the right eq.:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
jalguitarman
Junior Member
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
The DD is my favorite duncan pup especially for a les paul type axe through a recto. I never realized you could pull queensryche tones out of it. I will have to play "i don't beleive in love" on my bluesbird just to see what it sounds like. I have not played it for a while but i will likely still remember it. I would not mind learning "eyes of a stranger". Did fates warning ever use the DD? anyone?
The DD is my favorite duncan pup especially for a les paul type axe through a recto. I never realized you could pull queensryche tones out of it. I will have to play "i don't beleive in love" on my bluesbird just to see what it sounds like. I have not played it for a while but i will likely still remember it. I would not mind learning "eyes of a stranger". Did fates warning ever use the DD? anyone?
Ibanezrgonfire
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
i like the distortion in mahogany
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9YSZZZTGUY&search=carvin
i like the distortion in mahogany
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9YSZZZTGUY&search=carvin
ErikH
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Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Guys, it's more than the pickup. There's the amp, any effects, speakers, etc. Yeah, the DD will help but if you're playing it through a Deluxe Reverb you're not going to get the tone, or even in the ballpark for that matter.
Any medium to hot output pickup, a delay and a nice EL34 amp (MARSHALL!) will get in the ballpark.
Guys, it's more than the pickup. There's the amp, any effects, speakers, etc. Yeah, the DD will help but if you're playing it through a Deluxe Reverb you're not going to get the tone, or even in the ballpark for that matter.
Any medium to hot output pickup, a delay and a nice EL34 amp (MARSHALL!) will get in the ballpark.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
My M4 was alder as it had a big worn off section of the paint and the grain was clearly visible. Mine was an early version with a Kahler, not one of the Jackosn Floyds. Not to mention it had the alder "cluck"...not flat sounding like cheaper basswood
My M7 had the natural grain showing through (vintage Sunburst) and it was Alder as well.
Inconsistency I guess....
My M4 was alder as it had a big worn off section of the paint and the grain was clearly visible. Mine was an early version with a Kahler, not one of the Jackosn Floyds. Not to mention it had the alder "cluck"...not flat sounding like cheaper basswood
My M7 had the natural grain showing through (vintage Sunburst) and it was Alder as well.
Inconsistency I guess....
Pierre
Stratologist
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Exactly. Sorry if you guys felt that I was saying it nails the sound directly, I really did mean that get in the ballpark, I just thought it'd be a little obvious.
I got very close when using the POD 2.0 with the JCM800 amp model and my Basswood super strat with the DD.
Jeff, maybe so, but the specs never said so, and I never saw anyone from the JCF have an Alder one. I'll ask around then! My Basswood one is far from flat sounding though
And fairly heavy.
Exactly. Sorry if you guys felt that I was saying it nails the sound directly, I really did mean that get in the ballpark, I just thought it'd be a little obvious.
I got very close when using the POD 2.0 with the JCM800 amp model and my Basswood super strat with the DD.
Jeff, maybe so, but the specs never said so, and I never saw anyone from the JCF have an Alder one. I'll ask around then! My Basswood one is far from flat sounding though
And fairly heavy.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: Distortion first impressions: HOLY BATMAN TONE JESUS!!!
Since your guitar is pretty close in spec to what they used back then (but ESP's), I'm not surprised that the tone is right there in the ballpark, possibly even in the infield.
No worries from me. I knew what you meant initially. Unfortunately it wasn't obvious to others.Pierre said:
Since your guitar is pretty close in spec to what they used back then (but ESP's), I'm not surprised that the tone is right there in the ballpark, possibly even in the infield.
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