Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
This guy doesn't know what he's talkin about...
This guy doesn't know what he's talkin about...
Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
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Lewguitar
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
Originally Posted by Holy Diver:
"Fingers and amps don't matter if the sound can't be acheived because of technical inadequacies. I want to hear ANY Dimarzio that sounds close to a JB or DD for metal. I am waiting for the clips."
Hmmm...I'm not a metal player. But I agree that: "Fingers and amps don't matter if the sound can't be acheived because of technical inadequacies."
To many players think a great amp, guitar or set of pickups is going to give them the sound they hear when they listen to their heroes. They won't. If you can't get a satisfying and impressive sound unplugged you won't get a satisfying and impressive sound plugged in.
Now, as for: "I want to hear ANY Dimarzio that sounds close to a JB or DD for metal." goes: I dunno if Dimarzio makes a similar pickup to those two or not.
Who cares? It's already been done! LOL!
I really do kinda think that the Dimarzio humbuckers I've owned sounded like CC Deville talks!
LOL!
Originally Posted by Holy Diver:
"Fingers and amps don't matter if the sound can't be acheived because of technical inadequacies. I want to hear ANY Dimarzio that sounds close to a JB or DD for metal. I am waiting for the clips."
Hmmm...I'm not a metal player. But I agree that: "Fingers and amps don't matter if the sound can't be acheived because of technical inadequacies."
To many players think a great amp, guitar or set of pickups is going to give them the sound they hear when they listen to their heroes. They won't. If you can't get a satisfying and impressive sound unplugged you won't get a satisfying and impressive sound plugged in.
Now, as for: "I want to hear ANY Dimarzio that sounds close to a JB or DD for metal." goes: I dunno if Dimarzio makes a similar pickup to those two or not.
Who cares? It's already been done! LOL!
I really do kinda think that the Dimarzio humbuckers I've owned sounded like CC Deville talks!
LOL!
edsmith
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I think it's dumb to say that either manufacturer makes better pickups for anything. I've heard fantastic blues players using Super Distortions and fantastic metal players using the Pearly Gates. It's all about how you put it all together. I can't believe this thread went on this long debating something this ridiculous.
I think it's dumb to say that either manufacturer makes better pickups for anything. I've heard fantastic blues players using Super Distortions and fantastic metal players using the Pearly Gates. It's all about how you put it all together. I can't believe this thread went on this long debating something this ridiculous.
Binnerscot
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
...yeah, they do have that quality. :laugh2:...sometimes I want that quality, I always keep a Dimarzio loaded guitar or two around.
...yeah, they do have that quality. :laugh2:...sometimes I want that quality, I always keep a Dimarzio loaded guitar or two around.
Holy Diver
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I DO know what pickups I need in my guitar, and the Dimarzio's I tried were not them. Happy holidays everyone.
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Depends how you define fat. Vocal and deep or natural and full sounding.
Tell that to leslie west, I just found out his favorite pickup is the same as mine.
The Mega Drive, he even thinks of it the way I do, like a humcanceling P-90.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Depends how you define fat. Vocal and deep or natural and full sounding.
Tell that to leslie west, I just found out his favorite pickup is the same as mine.
The Mega Drive, he even thinks of it the way I do, like a humcanceling P-90.
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I would agree with this....very generally speaking of course.
There are a good amount of exceptions though.
I would agree with this....very generally speaking of course.
There are a good amount of exceptions though.
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
This is in no way true....maybe YOUR guitar and setup didn't work with Dimarzios....funny how many others have no problem...
This is in no way true....maybe YOUR guitar and setup didn't work with Dimarzios....funny how many others have no problem...
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
This pretty much explains your credibility right here....nice work!!
This pretty much explains your credibility right here....nice work!!
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
Wow.....cmon...you can troll better than this.
No bottom end....LOL!!!
Wow.....cmon...you can troll better than this.
No bottom end....LOL!!!
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
The philosophies of the two companies are very different.
Duncan tends to go after those timeless tones that have been classics for years...the ones that everyone wants to have access to..and for good reason.
Dimarzio is more about creating new tones even if they don't have widespread application..but they always seem to be breaking new ground...HFH...Fred....X2N....etc.
I've said this before but I'll say it again...very generally speaking(exceptions abound of course)....if you want someone else's tone...go Duncan....if you want your own tone go Dimarzio.
Needless to say I love pickups from both companies.
The philosophies of the two companies are very different.
Duncan tends to go after those timeless tones that have been classics for years...the ones that everyone wants to have access to..and for good reason.
Dimarzio is more about creating new tones even if they don't have widespread application..but they always seem to be breaking new ground...HFH...Fred....X2N....etc.
I've said this before but I'll say it again...very generally speaking(exceptions abound of course)....if you want someone else's tone...go Duncan....if you want your own tone go Dimarzio.
Needless to say I love pickups from both companies.
KeeperOS
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I really don't see the point in vaulting a thread that is certain to end as a flame/troll war between different factions, just like that whole Strats vs Teles vs LPs etc...
What WOULD be good would be a thread or body of text or sth stating where each is better, where each is worse (all objective of course), and stating not to bother people with what's already there.
It could start as a thread/number of threads that would later be unified/filtered from all hostilities/personal vendettas...
Sth like that
I really don't see the point in vaulting a thread that is certain to end as a flame/troll war between different factions, just like that whole Strats vs Teles vs LPs etc...
What WOULD be good would be a thread or body of text or sth stating where each is better, where each is worse (all objective of course), and stating not to bother people with what's already there.
It could start as a thread/number of threads that would later be unified/filtered from all hostilities/personal vendettas...
Sth like that
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
You sir, are clearly an individual of taste and distinction, as well as great insight regarding genius when you read it.
You sir, are clearly an individual of taste and distinction, as well as great insight regarding genius when you read it.
Metalblaze
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I think if everyone paid more attention to the first answer stating that it's all about pup/guitar matching we could avoid the blah blah.
Everyone says their opinion (and reasonably) judging from their own rig. But this is not the case when you compare pups. Actually if you think about it, you just can't compare pups because each one fits best to a different rig. If you want to compare two pickups, you must find the two guitars/rigs they best work into and then compare their tone.
You can't say: "This pup has way too much presence" but "This pickup has more presence than...." because it's meant to clear things up from a rig that lacks presence...and of course if you use it in a rig with a good amount of presence the result will be way too much presence. Same with too much bass, mids, treble etc...
to Holy Diver: try the Steve's Special, it will hit you down like a hammer.
I have used it through an old Marshall Valvestate (nothing special) and it was like a giant kick drum or something...
I think if everyone paid more attention to the first answer stating that it's all about pup/guitar matching we could avoid the blah blah.
Everyone says their opinion (and reasonably) judging from their own rig. But this is not the case when you compare pups. Actually if you think about it, you just can't compare pups because each one fits best to a different rig. If you want to compare two pickups, you must find the two guitars/rigs they best work into and then compare their tone.
You can't say: "This pup has way too much presence" but "This pickup has more presence than...." because it's meant to clear things up from a rig that lacks presence...and of course if you use it in a rig with a good amount of presence the result will be way too much presence. Same with too much bass, mids, treble etc...
to Holy Diver: try the Steve's Special, it will hit you down like a hammer.
I have used it through an old Marshall Valvestate (nothing special) and it was like a giant kick drum or something...
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Metalblaze
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
You can't mean that.....Blues is one, if not the only source of rock music which then metal came from.
Blues->Rock n Roll->Rock->Hard Rock->Metal etc...(a bit rough but you get the point).
Jimi was another connection between blues and rock IMO. Just imagine the number of rock and metal players inspired from him.
You can't mean that.....Blues is one, if not the only source of rock music which then metal came from.
Blues->Rock n Roll->Rock->Hard Rock->Metal etc...(a bit rough but you get the point).
Jimi was another connection between blues and rock IMO. Just imagine the number of rock and metal players inspired from him.
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GreatWallGuard
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Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
well, thanks for everyone posting here! Really I didn't there would be such a hot discussion here. And I am happy that so many people have told me something helpful for learning about musical instruments.
God ****, how could they make so many good pickups there. Above all, they are all good things that I will find chances to take a try on.
So keep on learning!
well, thanks for everyone posting here! Really I didn't there would be such a hot discussion here. And I am happy that so many people have told me something helpful for learning about musical instruments.
God ****, how could they make so many good pickups there. Above all, they are all good things that I will find chances to take a try on.
So keep on learning!
daemon barbeque
Zuhahahaologist
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
Some of you would allready know my answer ,but i will post it for the New people here...
Nothing is as Fat ,brilliand and smoking like a PATB line PU!The bottom ,the harmonics ,the dynamics...
The Chug ,the highs ,the soul ripps anything on the planet!
DMZ does great products for shure ,and many of my Guitar heroes uses or used them...
But IMHE ,it's not "full" enough to give me shivers...PATB's do that to me...That's why ,everytime i buy a guitar ,i put a PATB1 or 2 in it ,or let me build a custom one!
Some of you would allready know my answer ,but i will post it for the New people here...
Nothing is as Fat ,brilliand and smoking like a PATB line PU!The bottom ,the harmonics ,the dynamics...
The Chug ,the highs ,the soul ripps anything on the planet!
DMZ does great products for shure ,and many of my Guitar heroes uses or used them...
But IMHE ,it's not "full" enough to give me shivers...PATB's do that to me...That's why ,everytime i buy a guitar ,i put a PATB1 or 2 in it ,or let me build a custom one!
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
I agree mostly.
THe problem here and many times with getting pickup advice is that people recommend pickups and have no idea that different rigs will completely change how that pickup sounds ultimately.
The best way to compare pickups is strictly to each other..but you have to be willing to try a few blindly to get a footing. This way when someone recommends XYZ pickup...you can ask...well is XYZ hotter and more bright than pickup 123 which I've already tried?
By knowing how pickups relate to each other via tone charts etc, I can usually get the pickup I'm looking for in one shot...not much guessing.
I think if everyone paid more attention to the first answer stating that it's all about pup/guitar matching we could avoid the blah blah.
Everyone says their opinion (and reasonably) judging from their own rig. But this is not the case when you compare pups. Actually if you think about it, you just can't compare pups because each one fits best to a different rig. If you want to compare two pickups, you must find the two guitars/rigs they best work into and then compare their tone.
You can't say: "This pup has way too much presence" but "This pickup has more presence than...." because it's meant to clear things up from a rig that lacks presence...and of course if you use it in a rig with a good amount of presence the result will be way too much presence. Same with too much bass, mids, treble etc...
to Holy Diver: try the Steve's Special, it will hit you down like a hammer.
I agree mostly.
THe problem here and many times with getting pickup advice is that people recommend pickups and have no idea that different rigs will completely change how that pickup sounds ultimately.
The best way to compare pickups is strictly to each other..but you have to be willing to try a few blindly to get a footing. This way when someone recommends XYZ pickup...you can ask...well is XYZ hotter and more bright than pickup 123 which I've already tried?
By knowing how pickups relate to each other via tone charts etc, I can usually get the pickup I'm looking for in one shot...not much guessing.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Do Dimarzios sound fatter than Duncans?
Click the link in my sig and choose the song "Granfaloon."
That was recorded with a DiMarzio Tone Zone and a Gibson P-90 in certain parts.
Click the link in my sig and choose the song "Granfaloon."
That was recorded with a DiMarzio Tone Zone and a Gibson P-90 in certain parts.