Do I really need string trees?

To be fair, I do prefer the average Gibson neck profiles over the average Fender neck profiles.

I would've thought the Fender Flat Oval would be super thin shreddy, but it reminds me more of the Gibson 60's, just with a less microscopic fret size, TBH.

I don't love the Gibson 50's, and I don't think I'd ever choose a guitar with the '58 neck profile given any other choice. But the Fender V necks or even the Boat U necks... man... add on top of that a 7.25" fretboard. Not for me.
 
:D I wonder why gibson owners often can't accept a given fact, the gibson necks are structurally weaker, for construction (angled headstock, for gibsons from the same wood block) and assembly (the neck lean out from the bottom body line of the guitar, fender does not).
This does completely not means they are lower quality instruments, they remain awesome, wonderful guitars.
A Stradivari's violin is way way way weaker than a fender, is it less valuable ?
C'mon, I LOVE fenders, but they are stringed coffee tables with bizarre pots on the surface....
 
To change the radius, neck profile, headstock orientation or fretboard material. Doesn't mean it was broken before, just means it didn't suit the owner/player.

Option 1: Tone/feel performance tweakers doing that every day

Option 2: Drunk @$$ guy doing his best Jimi imitation half crocked and drops one.

I know where I'm putting my money.
 
My general opinion is I don't remove necks any more than I have to from the body. Depending on the neck, it only takes a few removals to strip the holes and from there the only option is to fill and redrill the hole or use toothpicks as a temporary fix.
 
Totally made it up, but it is totally true.

If not, why the booming business in Strat necks in the first place?

Because there are so many different Fender neck shapes that you can pick from to get exactly what you want. You're not stuck with the one that comes on the guitar.
 
My general opinion is I don't remove necks any more than I have to from the body. Depending on the neck, it only takes a few removals to strip the holes and from there the only option is to fill and redrill the hole or use toothpicks as a temporary fix.

Removing necks doesn't strip the screw holes (unless you do it while the strings are still on and tuned). With no tension on the neck you should be able to remove the screws and replace them at least 100 times without damaging the threads in the least...unless you're a complete klutz, with 10 thumbs and no brains.
 
I wonder why threaded inserts with machine screws never took off. It seems like a much better idea for not much more money.
 
I have had one neck screw hole strip out

It was the first time i took that neck off
it is a bummer and repairable

I think the inserts would have been bigger if the issue were greater
But its like every 100 necks has a stripped hole
 
Stripping usually occurs when the neck is screwed ON and the screws are tightened too tight. It never happens when a neck is properly removed. Or if the screw holes were too large for the size screw used. Neck screws come in several sizes, there's not just one size that fits. If you use a screw that is too small for the hole, it is easier to strip when tightening. Then, even the correct size screw will strip.
 
Inserts are great. I actually use them for direct mount pups. However, I can see some potential problems for securing bolt-on necks...
1. The thread size and hole position has to be exact and universally standardized. No exceptions.
2. Without a lock washer, they don't actually hold as securely (meaning, keep the screw from getting loose with use) as wood does.
3. It would add to the cost.
4. Very difficult (and expensive) to correct any problems in the future (like stripped threads or insert coming loose).
 
Inserts are great. I actually use them for direct mount pups. However, I can see some potential problems for securing bolt-on necks...
1. The thread size and hole position has to be exact and universally standardized. No exceptions.
2. Without a lock washer, they don't actually hold as securely (meaning, keep the screw from getting loose with use) as wood does.
3. It would add to the cost.
4. Very difficult (and expensive) to correct any problems in the future (like stripped threads or insert coming loose).

Ahh, I didn't realize they didn't hold as securely. I also didn't think about an insert coming loose.
 
Stripping usually occurs when the neck is screwed ON and the screws are tightened too tight. It never happens when a neck is properly removed. Or if the screw holes were too large for the size screw used. Neck screws come in several sizes, there's not just one size that fits. If you use a screw that is too small for the hole, it is easier to strip when tightening. Then, even the correct size screw will strip.

The one I stripped had fine threads on the screws
and it may have been stripped from the factory
 
You don't have to worry about stripped neck screw holes if you have a Gibson.

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