DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

[fearnpol]

Hello does anyone have a wiring diagram for a layout like in my heading?
For the 5 positions on the switch, I need these combinations:

1. Bridge humbucker

2. Outside coils of both humbuckers

3. Both humbuckers on full

4. Inside coils of both humbuckers

5. Neck humbucker

Thanks in advance.
Paul

 

[Guitaraxz]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

Not do-able with a strat 5 way switch, certainly do-able with a 5 way Superswitch.

But..........

The P Model Mega Switch comes close to what you want http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Onlin...lectronics_and_Wiring/P-Model_Megaswitch.html

 

[Guitaraxz]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

On the wiring you request, IMO, positions 2 & 4 sound almost identical. So I would sugest, with a Superswitch, the following variation http://www.guitarelectronics.com/pr...-Humbuckers5-Way-Lever-Switch1-Volume-03.html

Obviously you need a superswitch to pull it off.

 

[Liko]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

On the wiring you request, IMO, positions 2 & 4 sound almost identical. So I would sugest, with a Superswitch, the following variation http://www.guitarelectronics.com/pr...-Humbuckers5-Way-Lever-Switch1-Volume-03.html

Obviously you need a superswitch to pull it off.

Depends. If the OP gets a couple of hybrid pickups, like a 59/custom or p-rails, the sounds he gets with "inside" vs "outside" coils can be very different.

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[BriGuy1968]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

On the wiring you request, IMO, positions 2 & 4 sound almost identical.

Depends. If the OP gets a couple of hybrid pickups, like a 59/custom or p-rails, the sounds he gets with "inside" vs "outside" coils can be very different.

I agree with both of these statements, but assuming that the OP does NOT have some sort of hybrid pickups, consider setting it up like an Ibanez RG:

1. Bridge HB
2. Both (Inner Coils)
3. Both (Humbuckers)
4. Neck Parallel
5. Neck Humbucker

I find that I get some pretty versatile tones that way. The only bummer is that you would need to order the right 5-way switch from Ibanez... it's not a typical layout. If you're interested in doing that, I can provide you with a schematic.

 

[blueman335]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

1. Bridge humbucker

2. Outside coils of both humbuckers

3. Both humbuckers on full

4. Inside coils of both humbuckers

5. Neck humbucker

This isn't even close to 'do-it-all'. 3 of the 5 are standard on every HB guitar, and the other two are almost identical. You're only adding one sound. A big rotary switch isn't worth that cost or effort. If you're after some real tone variation, you can use push-pulls for coil cut, phase, series, or spin-a-split. You can put in 3/4's of the Jimmy Page system with your 3 pots (or add a tone pot and 'do-it-all'). And with that you can also get both outer coils (both PU's in coil cut) and a 'virtual HB' (bridge screw with neck slug - both PU's in coil cut with phase). There's so much you can do with push-pulls, I don't know why anyone bothers with big, clunky rotary switches.

 

[fearnpol]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

No I understand it's not close to 'do it all' I posted whilst out walking my dog and it was the first thing that popped into my head. Hoping to get a fast response and not wanting to get a ****e storm of abuse because I didn't mention the kill switch that's going in too etc.
The pickups are a JB bridge and a Jazz neck.
I'm open to any suggestions but don't have time to order another super switch, sorry so I'm using the 4 pole Oak hobby I have to hand.
I'm looking at all of you suggestions and thanks for all your help.
Paul

 

[Mincer]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

I use this all the time. I wrote a blog about how to do it.. to make all positions hum cancelling and in phase, you will need a Super Switch and for one pickup to be rw/rp (reverse hot & ground, and flip the magnet).

 

[Maceo]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

This board is just killer/my hat's off to all the feedback so far and hope this $.02 compliments that

FWIW, I had a recent project with a Dillion PRS copy (1V1T + 3-way Rotary selector, 2 Hums) and I went with this diagram for a 6-way Rotary to get these options:


1. Neck only
2. Neck/Bridge in parallel
3. Bridge only
4. Neck/Bridge in series
5. Neck/Bridge in parallel (out of phase)
6. Neck/Bridge in series (out of phase)

...and then did push-pull splits on the Volume and Tone knobs for single coils (Non-hybrid humbuckers here). Mincer's a level beyond me (and plenty of others) in terms of "awesome" factor/wish I had read that first...! But this setup gives me enough variability to have fun. Joe Gore's blog was a huge eye-opener to me though, and his Jimmy Page series taught me that some of the "possible" tones with a "do-it-all" approach suck... but by adding a signal booster you can make them usable/cool. So if I had that third control open like your setup I might look that way for going from "do it all" with the Mega-Switch to "use-it-all" with a Mega + booster

HTH as Lt.Kojak would say, and looking forward to responses like, "No way, if you're doing *THAT* then here's an even more awesome option that no one else would have thought of!" which will re-blow our minds and give us all GAS for 2016

 

[Mincer]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

That. Is. Awesome.

 

[Juanhanglo]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

This isn't even close to 'do-it-all'. 3 of the 5 are standard on every HB guitar, and the other two are almost identical. You're only adding one sound. A big rotary switch isn't worth that cost or effort. If you're after some real tone variation, you can use push-pulls for coil cut, phase, series, or spin-a-split. You can put in 3/4's of the Jimmy Page system with your 3 pots (or add a tone pot and 'do-it-all'). And with that you can also get both outer coils (both PU's in coil cut) and a 'virtual HB' (bridge screw with neck slug - both PU's in coil cut with phase). There's so much you can do with push-pulls, I don't know why anyone bothers with big, clunky rotary switches.

Inside coils and outside coils sound different. Or at least they do in all the strats and 24 fret HH guitars I have wired.
In an ibanez rg for instance, inside coils are like a cross between a strat position 2 and 4. I like this one.
Outer coils is more tele middle position, but crappy.

I used to wire my HH guitars like the OP until I discovered the ibanez scheme stated above. Neck parallel is way more usable than outer coils IMO.
I would even take the older ibanez schematic that sub's the neck parallel with neck split. Plus, it is easier to wire and fit in tighter places.

 

[Mincer]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

Yeah? I like the outside coils, and can't stand most humbuckers in parallel. So it just depends on what you like. Once you have the switches, you can experiment a lot, but then use a Super Switch to settle on the 5 positions that work. For me, they all had to be humcancelling, and they have to be usable. Funny, the sound I use the least is both HBs together.

 

[Guitaraxz]

Re: DO IT ALL: 2 HUMBUCKERS AND A 5-WAY SWITCH 2-vol 1-tone

As you can tell from all the posts; you need a Superswitch.