Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

[TwilightOdyssey]

The Scheps 73 EQ is on sale from Waves for only $29. I grabbed it because that price is great, Andrew Scheps actually uses it daily, and I was looking for a non Pultec EQ for guitars.

Tried it very quickly on a solo'd guitar track. Great Mother of Mystery, is it a great EQ for guitar. Without turning a knob the guitar got all sorts of harmonic goodness going. It is not a subtle or surgical EQ, it's like the Pultec in that fashion -- just turn knobs until you are happy.

If you are mixing lots of guitars you should definitley add this to your arsenal along with the other standards: Pultec, Sie-Q, RS56 and eosis Air. I will be experimenting using this as a tone press as well for aux buses and seeing how it compares to the NLS which is my current favourite for adding harmonic content.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Hm, $30 is pretty good...maybe... haha

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

It's $59 on the Waves website.

http://www.waves.com/plugins/scheps-73#scheps-73-eq-overview

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

$60 is still a great price, but it was $30 last week ... I got the Schep 73 and the Doubler for $50.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

$60 is OK, not out of hand, but I tend to be pretty choosy when it comes to plugins. They're a lot like drugs: the more one buys, the more one wants.

I tend to watch for deals on the Plugin Alliance where I've gotten quite a few freebies that were good and several for $19 (their Friday specials). Normally those $19 plugins are in the $59-79 range.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Yeah, Plugin Alliance is great!

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

I tend to be pretty choosy when it comes to plugins. They're a lot like drugs: the more one buys, the more one wants.

I like having options and especially like stacking different types of plugins together since they all process the sound differently. Fab Filter or the stock Logic EQ is great for surgical EQ, but for color EQs you can get a lot of very cool sounds by layering different EQs.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

I like having options and especially like stacking different types of plugins together since they all process the sound differently

While I agree with this process to a certain extent, I tend to focus on the material and the performances. If those aren't up to snuff these techniques amount to little more than putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

While I agree with this process to a certain extent, I tend to focus on the material and the performances. If those aren't up to snuff these techniques amount to little more than putting lipstick on a pig.

When I am given something to mix I rarely have any control over the talent level involved. Sometimes you have to fix it in the mix as much as I would love to only have projects with amazing recordings of amazing, tasteful performances with great tone.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

When I am given something to mix

I wasn't referring to what you (or I) might mix for others.

I was talking about our own respective stuff.

I don't mix for others.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

I wasn't referring to what you (or I) might mix for others.

I was talking about our own respective stuff.

I don't mix for others.

Ah, understood. But when you are done with the material and performance, when do you get to the fun stuff?

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Ah, understood. But when you are done with the material and performance, when do you get to the fun stuff?

I guess our priorities and our focus are polar opposites (to each his own).

For my (time and) money, writing and performing are the "fun" stuff, or at least by far the most gratifying (particularly the former).

Re-amping and parallel processing a crappy song will never make it something it could never be.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

I guess our priorities and our focus are polar opposites (to each his own).

I don't think so, just our methodologies; no judgement, as you said -- to each his own!

For my (time and) money, writing and performing are the "fun" stuff, or at least by far the most gratifying (particularly the former).

My favorite moment is when the arrangement snaps into place ... after that it's all work, work, work!

Re-amping and parallel processing a crappy song will never make it something it could never be.

Agree to disagree on that point, production is vitally important to a song's presentation outside of live performances in my opinion.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Agree to disagree on that point, production is vitally important to a song's presentation outside of live performances in my opinion.

But production cannot make a crappy song anything but perhaps an elegantly dressed-up crappy song: Lipstick on a pig.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

But production cannot make a crappy song anything but perhaps an elegantly dressed-up crappy song: Lipstick on a pig.

Yes, you have already established that line of reasoning.

Whilst it's alright to be proud of your songs to a certain extent, without even getting into the can of worms that is "by whose metric is anything deemed 'good' "... it does seem a bit elitist to say you actively avoid purchasing plugins because it detracts from le art. Art is subjective and making music salable is as much about the sound as it is about the actual content itself; hence one reason reason there are 2 million sub genres of metal.

And if your songs are good as acknowledged by the afore-mentioned metric ... there is nothing noble in depriving yourself the tools and options that can make them even better.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Yes, you have already established that line of reasoning.

It seemed that you may not have understood my point.

it does seem a bit elitist to say you actively avoid purchasing plugins because it detracts from le art.

Actually I didn't say that at all: I have plenty of plugins that I purchased separately. I just said that a plugin isn't going to save a crappy song.

And if your songs are good as acknowledged by the afore-mentioned metric ... there is nothing noble in depriving yourself the tools and options that can make them even better.

Some people ignore the fact that the material stinks up the room and get hung up on gear and processing, thinking it'll save the day. That was all I was warning against. Bad production can hurt an otherwise good song. But good production won't really save truly lousy song.

Whilst it's alright

Sorry: People from Brooklyn do not say "whilst." You lose credibility for that.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

Ha! Street cred ruined!
I love a healthy, mature exchange of differing viewpoints.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

The title of the thread was what made me chime in:

"Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!"

My first thought was that this sounded a lot like the dozen or so emails I get each week hawking some plugin. They always feature comments (like "Never leave home without it!") from some engineer I've never heard of who has worked with some artist or band I know or might even love. So the logic is "Oooh...he used this on so-and-so's latest album! I must buy this!"

My second thought was I wondered what your commission for shilling for Scheps might be. :18:

I think a lot of people get sucked into buying stuff they don't need. That was my main point. This may be a great EQ and I may even try it someday, but that's not relevant. I don't think I'd be alone when saying that I could easily spend a few hundred shekels every week if I bought into the hype for every new plugin that comes along.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

I don't have many third party plug-ins, actually. [Anything over one is a collection, however. ]

It's easy for some people to think there's a magic bullet, I suppose, but I am not one of them.

But this thread is about an EQ plugin, not the philosophy of consumerism or comfort blankets.

I am not a fan of Neve preamps, they just don't do anything for me. Much prefer api or SSL. But the Neve EQ is very cool and a great tool if you are mixing rock music.

Combining it with the SSL preamp does some very cool things. I usually record guitar with both filters engaged and the 1073 is the first EQ I have used that brings the thump/body back in a very controlled way without having to resort to MB.

 

[dg27]

Re: Do you need the Scheps 73 EQ? Yes, you do!

But this thread is about an EQ plugin, not the philosophy of consumerism or comfort blankets. .

Who knew? All along I thought this thread was about you making your Scheps commission!