Does anyone make a HB with mismatched coils....

Re: Does anyone make a HB with mismatched coils....

You didn't address any of my points. Your input signal is not suitable for response analysis, and it concerns me that you'd don't seem to understand why that is important. Look at any speaker spec sheet, see what they use. You did not provide a "normal" humbucker test for comparison, and it concerns me that you don't immediately appreciate the need for one. You basically have a plot with two humps in it, and you're misattributing these two humps to fit the narrative you want to believe.

Even with these concerns not addressed, I know your plot doesn't show dual resonance because it's literally impossible for two strong peaks to arise, under load, from doing nothing more than using 42 AWG on one bobbin, and 43 AWG on the other.


LOL…

1-I’ve shared what I considered as sharable here. I don’t plan to spend more time in publishing experimental measurements. It’s not to your liking? If this idea makes you happy… :-)

2-What do you know about my input signal? Are you SO sure to get EXACTLY how my curves have been generated?… On which presuppositions do you judge them, outside your certitude that freefrog is wrong (or a personal need to prove that, along a so malignant reading of my answers that it has disgusted Joey Voltage) ? :-)

3-Why should I “address any of [your] points” while I was just trying to share with another member an accessory excerpt of my archives, in an answer suited to this topic?... :-)

4-Who are you to “know” for DiMarzio what dual-resonance is(n’t) or can(‘t) do? Where is/are the pickup(s) that you’ve built to prove your statement, and to be compared to my prototype humbucker? :-)

5-Who are you to talk to other members like an inquisitor? :-)

6-If my goal had been to test your own “resonance” It would be instructive, anyway: my hasty babbling, published as a distraction during short lapses of free time, “concerns” you twice, as if it was really “important”… you apparently need to be reassured about the idea that dual-resonance CAN’T do what others say… [EDIT 2: this last supposition seems to be confirmed by a thread created under another screen-name: http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/8073/voltage-output-coil-hybrid-humbucker. No need to say that the tests done here follow a different methodology and give radically different results.] My “plot” (like in “plot theory”) is accused to illustrate a “narrative” (as if you were parroting what LtKojak has recently said to Antigua on MyLesPaul)… Then you post TWO long other posts to prove that freefrog is wrong [EDIT 3: one of these two posts is the answer 120, including a flawed schematic, although I don't know if it's intentional or not]...



OMG...

Relax, Andy! Enjoy life instead of being so angry and wasting (y)our time for so futile subjects!... Watch Flanders talking to the Simpson’s and laugh a minute!...

That said and to come back on topic a last time… THIS IS dual-resonance at work in a “mismatched” DiMarzio pickup: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...atched-coils&p=4166663&viewfull=1#post4166663 :-)

Have a nice day!

EDIT 1 (on topic)- Below is a rough sim of mismatched dual-resonance HB done on a hurry while it’s 8.45AM here. It’s not accurately on par with my test on the Tone Zone but I’ve not enough free time to waste it in “fine tuning” a theoretical model destined to be denied anyway. :-)

DualRzDmTheor.jpg

EDIT again, for a FOOTNOTE to my point 6:

So what happens when you use a different wire gauge. At best, you get an asymmetry of capacitance per coil. What happens when you give the coils different capacitances?

vWog118.png


Absolutely nothing.



This is definitively a "Flawed schematic" since...
a) it modelizes each coil like inductance + resistance in series, the whole being in parallel with capacitors. So these capacitors are partly in series between themselves and with each coil . It's NOT how pickups can be modelized and "PicoRiveraTele" (did) know it, since he has published a different model under his main other screen-name: http://guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/7842/modeling-electric-guitar-ltspice.
In the schematic above, the broken vertical blue line shows where one of the capacitors should have been placed in order to emulate the capacitance of one coil, BTW.
b)This schematic above attributes different capacitance values to two coils with the SAME inductance and resistance. OBVIOUSLY, two coils wound with different wire gauges would NOT exhibit the same DCR for a same inductance.

So, the model above concretizes either a mistake, either an attempt to prove me wrong (or to prove my supposed ignorance) on the basis of "fake news". :-)

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Re: Does anyone make a HB with mismatched coils....

LOL…

1-I’ve shared what I considered as sharable here. I don’t plan to spend more time in publishing experimental measurements. It’s not to your liking? If this idea makes you happy… :-)

2-What do you know about my input signal? Are you SO sure to get EXACTLY how my curves have been generated?… On which presuppositions do you judge them, outside your certitude that freefrog is wrong (or a personal need to prove that, along a so malignant reading of my answers that it has disgusted Joey Voltage) ? :-)

3-Why should I “address any of [your] points” while I was just trying to share with another member an accessory excerpt of my archives, in an answer suited to this topic?... :-)

4-Who are you to “know” for DiMarzio what dual-resonance is(n’t) or can(‘t) do? Where is/are the pickup(s) that you’ve built to prove your statement, and to be compared to my prototype humbucker? :-)

5-Who are you to talk to other members like an inquisitor? :-)

6-If my goal had been to test your own “resonance” It would be instructive, anyway: my hasty babbling, published as a distraction during short lapses of free time, “concerns” you twice, as if it was really “important”… you apparently need to be reassured about the idea that dual-resonance CAN’T do what others say… My “plot” (like in “plot theory”) is accused to illustrate a “narrative” (as if you were parroting what LtKojak has recently said to Antigua on MyLesPaul)… Then you post TWO long other posts to prove that freefrog is wrong!... OMG...

Relax, Andy! Enjoy life instead of being so angry and wasting (y)our time for so futile subjects!... Watch Flanders talking to the Simpson’s and laugh a minute!...

That said and to come back on topic a last time… THIS IS dual-resonance at work in a “mismatched” DiMarzio pickup: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...atched-coils&p=4166663&viewfull=1#post4166663 :-)

Have a nice day!

EDIT (on topic)- Below is a rough sim of mismatched dual-resonance HB done on a hurry while it’s 8.45AM here. It’s not accurately on par with my test on the Tone Zone but I’ve not enough free time to waste it in “fine tuning” a theoretical model destined to be denied anyway. :-)

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I don't expect I'll ever win you over, but some day, someone who googles around looking for a technical case for the dual resonance patent might happen across this thread, and I want to make the strongest case I can, for their sake. I don't think the ranting and raving helps your cause.
 
Re: Does anyone make a HB with mismatched coils....

I don't expect I'll ever win you over, but some day, someone who googles around looking for a technical case for the dual resonance patent might happen across this thread, and I want to make the strongest case I can, for their sake. I don't think the ranting and raving helps your cause.

My “cause”? Their “sake”? A “case”? “Win” over me?

So, you indeed see this forum as a tribunal? Or a battlefield?

Personally, I’ve no “cause” to “help” (except maybe in the fantasies of people who unilaterally designate freefrog as an enemy). I was just trying to share a few on topic data with Joey Voltage… :-)

But the misplaced agressivity of this post led me to edit my post 121 and it should make obvious who was actually wrong in this "case".
 
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