Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Edgecrusher said:
Sorry dude but thats a large bunch of malarky. Dave never recorded with a King V pro. RIP was recorded with J2713 with a JB in the bridge Countdown was recorded with DM010 with a JB in the bridge. The blades on that version of the L500 dont stick up enough to be used as frets he did use the edge of the pickup to fret off of though. Something he could do with any pickup not just the L500. Many of the KVPros came with J80C's not J92C's ask me how I know this. View attachment 55322 The duncan in the bridge of Daves main J2713 appeared with a JB before the recording of So far so good so what.

The major difference you hear between those 2 albums is the production. Their are gear differences but i guarantee you the production plays much more into the differences than the CAE preamp that was used on RIP versus the Bogner Preamp that was used on Countdown. And certainly those differences are much bigger than any that just a magnet could make.
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I was going by the insubstantial pieces of information I had, and some guesswork, and I wasn't always stating facts, or pretending to. But he did state in an interview somewhere he used the blades as frets. Can't they be raised? What do you mean by 'fretting off' the blades if they couldn't be used as frets?

I think I remember the SFSGSW tones sounding very JB, so you were right there.

His signature KV Pro had the J92-C, not the regular models. The ad right there says so, unless they had updated specs later.

Marty Friedman did say that they went straight into their hot-rodded Marshalls, and added some 'juice' to the tracks afterwards, so you were right there. I suppose that was my inclination towards fresh, non-overproduced sounds while recording distorting my instinct.
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Falloffthebonetone said:
Using the blades as frets wut?

Also since my original posts, I found out right around that time, the Jazz was actually called another JB in the set. So Dave likely never used a bridge position jb in the neck like the name suggests but chances are it was a jazz.
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And I read in another thread yesterday that the Distortion neck with A5 was originally the matched JB neck. The plot thickens...
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Letus said:
And I read in another thread yesterday that the Distortion neck with A5 was originally the matched JB neck. The plot thickens...
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Which thread, can you post a link? Any I have ever read say it makes a nice neck pickup to match the jb but was never an official duncan creation sold in a set. That has always been the jazz. It is mainly Jackson's fault for the JB set mix up. They got a set of duncans to use in the guitar and the were called the JB bridge and the JB neck around the late 80s early 90s. It's still a problem today actually with Jackson. This explains while in some interviews, Mustaine said he would use 2 JBs, but then his signature pickups come out and they are based on the JB Jazz set. I did a whole thing a while back where this other forum guy and I were looking for the neck pickup used in Iron Maiden's Fear of the Dark era by Dave Murray and sure enough he used Jackson during that time and I got lead to the same problem when I found it was 2 JB humbuckers, but the article clarified that it was actually the Jazz pickup.
Here's a link to Jackson's specs for one of their guitars
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/guitars/king-v/models/usa-kv2-king-v-ebony-fretboard-black/
It even says they are like direct mount zebra JB's? I mean that model looks like it even has a 59 in the neck because there is no duncan logo on it.
 
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Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Letus said:
And I read in another thread yesterday that the Distortion neck with A5 was originally the matched JB neck. The plot thickens...
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What you read was speculation by another member not fact at all.
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Letus said:
His signature KV Pro had the J92-C, not the regular models. The ad right there says so, unless they had updated specs later.
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Your not picking up what im putting down here. The guitar I linked you is my own personal KVPro that I bought brand new in 1993 and it has a J80C in it. Ive spoken with other members of the JCF forum who had a similar expierence. For whatever reason Jackson fit a different pickup to some of the guitars. No one knows why. Hell the same thing happened to the custom shop run of the Ace Frehley Gibson signatures. The ads all said Super distortions yet many were shipped with Dimarzio Pafs. Sometimes they make a mistake in the ads... Sometimes they change things and dont document it. *cough* JB *cough*

Letus said:
I was going by the insubstantial pieces of information I had, and some guesswork, and I wasn't always stating facts, or pretending to. But he did state in an interview somewhere he used the blades as frets. Can't they be raised? What do you mean by 'fretting off' the blades if they couldn't be used as frets?
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No they cant be raised and that model they are flush with the bobbins. Some of the models are slightly raised to match the radius of the fretboard but not from that time period. He didnt actually fret off the blades he fret off the edge of the bobbin. Dig around you can find videos of him doing it on guitars that dont have the rail pickups. For that matter he only fit the Bill Lawerence pickup to 1 guitar his main from that period J2713. All his back up guitars at that time had different neck pickups.
 
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Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Edgecrusher said:
Your not picking up what im putting down here. The guitar I linked you is my own personal KVPro that I bought brand new in 1993 and it has a J80C in it. Ive spoken with other members of the JCF forum who had a similar expierence. For whatever reason Jackson fit a different pickup to some of the guitars. No one knows why. Hell the same thing happened to the custom shop run of the Ace Frehley Gibson signatures. The ads all said Super distortions yet many were shipped with Dimarzio Pafs. Sometimes they make a mistake in the ads... Sometimes they change things and dont document it. *cough* JB *cough*
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I thought the *production* JB was already, since its introduction into the normal production line, different from the other hand-wound JBs of the 80s, and that the production model's specs was never changed.
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Archer250 said:
I thought the *production* JB was already, since its introduction into the normal production line, different from the other hand-wound JBs of the 80s, and that the production model's specs was never changed.
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Define "change" At minimum the bobbin material has changed and rough cast to polished magnets. Other changes have been debated regarding the exact alloys and formulations used. The semi official stance is that the changes that have been done dont matter to the sound and the basic specs (which is true) the JB has never strayed from. But this also explains why people feel the old ones are "different"
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Edgecrusher said:
Define "change" At minimum the bobbin material has changed and rough cast to polished magnets. Other changes have been debated regarding the exact alloys and formulations used. The semi official stance is that the changes that have been done dont matter to the sound and the basic specs (which is true) the JB has never strayed from. But this also explains why people feel the old ones are "different"
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I am aware of those changes.
I thought those changes were made from the 80s non-production JB, however.
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Edgecrusher said:
Your not picking up what im putting down here. The guitar I linked you is my own personal KVPro that I bought brand new in 1993 and it has a J80C in it. Ive spoken with other members of the JCF forum who had a similar expierence. For whatever reason Jackson fit a different pickup to some of the guitars. No one knows why. Hell the same thing happened to the custom shop run of the Ace Frehley Gibson signatures. The ads all said Super distortions yet many were shipped with Dimarzio Pafs. Sometimes they make a mistake in the ads... Sometimes they change things and dont document it. *cough* JB *cough*



No they cant be raised and that model they are flush with the bobbins. Some of the models are slightly raised to match the radius of the fretboard but not from that time period. He didnt actually fret off the blades he fret off the edge of the bobbin. Dig around you can find videos of him doing it on guitars that dont have the rail pickups. For that matter he only fit the Bill Lawerence pickup to 1 guitar his main from that period J2713. All his back up guitars at that time had different neck pickups.
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Ah, thanks.
 
Re: Does Marty Friedman use 2x JBJ pickups?

Bones said:
He used to only have a single bucker Jackson Kelly signature, if that answers your question.
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Did he already have a signature guitar with Jackson when recording Rust in Peace?
 
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