does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

Random thought/question.

For floyds, once you're locked at the nut, do you still have to tune up to the note when using the fine tuners? what about if its a flush mounted floyd?

Just a random thought I had while I was using my wolfgang today :33:

-CC
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

the slightest change of tension in the springs for whatever reason or the truss rod or the wood will make the guitar slightly out of tune, so the fine tuners are an essential part. If it is a flush mount design, then all (except the strings) of the aforementioned factors might be there.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

the slightest change of tension in the springs for whatever reason or the truss rod or the wood will make the guitar slightly out of tune, so the fine tuners are an essential part. If it is a flush mount design, then all (except the strings) of the aforementioned factors might be there.

Well my wolfgang is a flush mount design. But I didn't know if by not tuning up to a note when adjusting with the fine tuners would make a difference in thing stability? I didn't know if it would effect tuning like that on a double locking system
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

With my fender strat with Floyd it will stay in tune after you lock it but if atrongly recommend fully stretching your strings before you lock your nut
If you don't you'll be frustrated stretch and play with out the clamps on and make sure it stays in tune before you clamp then go and fine tune if you need .
And before you clamp set all your fine tuners in the middle not all the way down and not all the way up just in the middle to give some leeway.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

I tend to tune up to pitch, perhaps out of habit.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

I am adamant about tuning up when using the normal headstock tuners, but once locked up and using the fine tuners? No, I tune up or down in pitch and don't worry about it.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

I've probably tuned up to pitch out of habit, too, but if you look at how Floyd fine tuners work, I think it makes sense that they'd work well either way.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

With fine tuners it won't matter. The reason you tune up to pitch is to ensure the string isn't getting hung up on the nut or loosening the winds around the tuner.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

No it doesnt IMO

With that said, I always found tuning down to the note holds better on my non locking nut guitars...so...
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

Well my wolfgang is a flush mount design. But I didn't know if by not tuning up to a note when adjusting with the fine tuners would make a difference in thing stability? I didn't know if it would effect tuning like that on a double locking system

Aha I get what you are saying. I suppose it doesn't make a difference. But you would want all your fine tuners look uniform, and have the same margin of going up/down, maybe with the low B/E excluded due to drop tunings.
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

I tend to tune up to pitch, perhaps out of habit.
I agree, same here and mainly out of habit, but it also seems a little bit more consistent to me. All of my guitars but one has a Floyd or a Kahler, but I still tune up to pitch..
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

No it doesnt IMO

With that said, I always found tuning down to the note holds better on my non locking nut guitars...so...
Do you use a bar more often then bending notes?

(I've read that one direction is better for bar stability and the other is better for stability bending and releasing notes.)
 
Re: does the "always tune up to the note" apply with floyds?

Do you guys notice a difference in string tension before and after you lock the nut?
 
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