Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

This forum can be a very strange place at times...

Particularly since we've been discussing relativistic physics in a pickup-related thread...
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

A mere bagatelle, my lads. To wit:

E = -\mathbf{\mu} \cdot \mathbf{B}_0 = -\mu_\mathrm{z} B_0 \cos \theta \ .

Usually B0 is chosen to be aligned along the z axis, therefore cosθ=1:

E = -\mu_\mathrm{z} B_0 \ ,

or alternatively:

E = -gm\hbar B_0 \ .

As a result the different nuclear spin states have different energies in a non-zero magnetic field. In hand-waving terms, we can talk about the two spin states of a spin 1⁄2 as being aligned either with or against the magnetic field. If g is positive (true for most isotopes) then m = 1⁄2 is the lower energy state.

The energy difference between the two states is:

\Delta{E} = g\hbar B_0 \ ,

and this difference results in a small population bias toward the lower energy state.
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

How exactly does four inches of wire make a difference when connecting a pickup containing hundreds of feet of wire? Maybe it's just the fever and flu, but I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this...
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

How exactly does four inches of wire make a difference when connecting a pickup containing hundreds of feet of wire? Maybe it's just the fever and flu, but I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this...

omigod did you NOT read my post??
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

are you guys cutting the cable lengthwise or breadthwise..?
my guitar sounds funny
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

are you guys cutting the cable lengthwise or breadthwise..?
my guitar sounds funny

Musta been cutting it with Heinlein's Razor. ;)
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

So... if you put instant coffee in the microwave you CAN go back in time???
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

You guys are all completely and hopelessly insane.

Boy, do I fit in here...
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

So... if you put instant coffee in the microwave you CAN go back in time???

There is a small possibility, but it is much more likely to a) make a mess of your microwave and b) create a point of singularity that will consume the Earth, Sun and eventually the entire galaxy. However, the chance of time travel is increased if you set the microwave to medium power and put a colander on your head. This will dissipate the Higgs boson particles, making the formation of a singularity much less likely. If you do this however, make sure you take some instant coffee for the return trip, as well as some tools in case you need to repair the microwave
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

There is a small possibility, but it is much more likely to a) make a mess of your microwave and b) create a point of singularity that will consume the Earth, Sun and eventually the entire galaxy. However, the chance of time travel is increased if you set the microwave to medium power and put a colander on your head. This will dissipate the Higgs boson particles, making the formation of a singularity much less likely. If you do this however, make sure you take some instant coffee for the return trip, as well as some tools in case you need to repair the microwave

Aim for some time around 1963. The Gibson Les Paul model electric guitar will be out of production, deeply unfashionable and on sale for next to no money. Snap up a couple of dozens for your return trip. :cool2:

Actually, IMO, LtKojak's post should have been THREAD.
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

Aim for some time around 1963. The Gibson Les Paul model electric guitar will be out of production, deeply unfashionable and on sale for next to no money. Snap up a couple of dozens for your return trip. :cool2:

I LIKE this plan!!!!!
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

OK, so back to the original question....

Wait! What was the original question?

Wait! Was there an original question? I forgot.

Wait! Did I forget, or is this just the effect of too much time travel on my mind? Or, did you really mean to put a colander on my head and put it in the microwave. After about 10 seconds it felt like my head was exploding.
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

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Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

I am gonna let you guys in a on a little secret. I have already invented a Time machine!! I will be releasing it to the general public as soon as I can figure out how the 90 day warranty is gonna work....
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

A time based warrany with a time machine sounds like a bad idea. You need some kind of odometer installed and base the warranty off of that.

To the OP: I would think the length would make a measurable difference in the capacitance and resistance of the lead. Shorter lead would have lower values, thereby increasing the highs frequencies and output. However, I'm sure you would need a highly sophisticated electronic meter to actually measure the differences (borrow one from NASA). Now can you hear the difference, no because the change is so small. Plus any difference, however small, may not make it to the input jack due to the additional wiring and components that have an influence on the signal.

You could always shorten the leads, and try it out. If you don't like it, use one of these guys time machines to go back to the time before you cut the lead.
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

A time based warrany with a time machine sounds like a bad idea. You need some kind of odometer installed and base the warranty off of that.

To the OP: I would think the length would make a measurable difference in the capacitance and resistance of the lead. Shorter lead would have lower values, thereby increasing the highs frequencies and output. However, I'm sure you would need a highly sophisticated electronic meter to actually measure the differences (borrow one from NASA). Now can you hear the difference, no because the change is so small. Plus any difference, however small, may not make it to the input jack due to the additional wiring and components that have an influence on the signal.

You could always shorten the leads, and try it out. If you don't like it, use one of these guys time machines to go back to the time before you cut the lead.

Um, a wire doesn't have a capacitance... does it???
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

Any two conductors in proximity to one another can be said to have some capacitance between them. In particular, twisted or shielded wire has a measurable capacitance per unit of length, as determined by the conductor geometry and the dielectric medium between them (air, rubber, cloth, etc.). It's usually modeled as a capacitor connected across the two conductors.
 
Re: Does the length of pickups leads affect tone noticably?

Any two conductors in proximity to one another can be said to have some capacitance between them. In particular, twisted or shielded wire has a measurable capacitance per unit of length, as determined by the conductor geometry and the dielectric medium between them (air, rubber, cloth, etc.). It's usually modeled as a capacitor connected across the two conductors.

yep
what he said

in telecom
wires carrying small voltages like on your Internet connection now

+3 volts dc
a series of on's ( binary is on' and off's ) could "charge the line" so that it would read on all the time

thats why telco use +3 volts and -3volts as on's in alternating fashion
 
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