Does wood matter?

vivanchenko

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The devil in me makes me ask you again:"does wood matter in an electric guitar?" I know the answer, but what the others would say?

I know, "not this sh_t again!" But I mean it's embarrassing that the guitar world still doesn't have a definitive answer... Which is a very good ground for fraudulent profiteers. What can you say?
 
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this is what i've always thought:
cut out identical body shapes of in mahogany, basswood, alder, etc etc with bolt-on neck pocket. and a simple bridge like a tele bridge where the strings are inserted from behind the saddles. not through the body
1 pickup rout with channel to top-mounted output jack so that you can as easily as possible disassemble the neck, strings and bridge, and electronics from the body.
the shape of the body wouldn't matter. it could be a bo diddley body shape.
paint them all the same color
then swap the neck/strings/bridge, and the pickup/jack package from body to body
and do audio samples

of course you'd use a torque wrench for the neck screws

not debating whether there would be a difference in tone. but would one be able to identify which body-wood was which?
 
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Basswood is lightweight
I like that in my guitars

Does it affect tone?

I doubt it

Neck wood makes a difference
 
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1, Buy an ash telecaster, play it and listen,
2, go to warmoth or similar & buy a mahogany body
3, switch everything over into your new mahogany body.
4, play it, listen & draw your own conclusion.
 
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Well, mechanical physics has the definitive answer and always has had.......that different structure for sure will affect energy transfer and dissipation, and therefore how the strings will vibrate.

But just taking 2 guitars and automatically assuming they will be different is somewhat simplistic, or assuming that the difference will be translated via the pickup/chord/pedals/amp/distortion into an audible change is a different matter.
 
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I think all that matters is what each individual player hears at the end of the day. I've heard some folks say it absolutely doesn't matter and others like myself absolutely feel like it does. Maybe both views are correct. :dunno:
 
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I'm going to come out and say this right now.

If you guys can keep from insulting each other and breaking other rules then rock on with this thread. It's actually a very good topic.

However, every time this topic comes up it turns into a fight.

Please prove me wrong about this, guys. Keep it clean.
 
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If you can't hear and feel a difference then it doesn't matter.

I do know a cool trick tho for all players of bolt on guitars regardless of what type of wood, masonite, epoxy or concrete you like your guitars to be made of:
Keep your guitar tuned and then very gently and slightly and loosen each of the 4 neck screws by maybe a quarter turn or less. By the time you get to the fourth one you will hear a "crack" where the tension of the strings pulls the neck down a little tighter into its pocket. Once you hear this, tighten them all up again and enjoy. If you notice a difference, then great! If not, then just like wood type, it doesn't matter and no harm done in a very quick and easy experiment.
 
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Yes it makes a difference. I have several G&L Legacys, all set up as close as I can measure. I can hear a difference between the maple-necks, ebony, and rosewood boards. I hear a difference between my alder guitars and my ash bodies.

Now, to ME...that difference, even though clearly audible to me (and also audible to my non-playing GF), is for the most part, NOT MEANINGFUL.

I fact, of all the songs I use a Legacy for (about 70% of my band's material) there is only ONE song that I have a clear wood preference for. That one song, I'm trying to get a very natural acoustic guitar tone, and an alder body Legacy with a RW board gets me closer to that goal than my other Legacys with different woods.

So yes, I can hear a difference in wood. Is one better than the other? Might be to some, but not to me...except for one song.

Bill
 
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IME/IMO: Yes, the wood affects the tone of an electric guitar...but not in a way that can be quantified, controlled, reproduced, predicted, etc. In other words, there isn't much point worrying a lot about it, because you can't do much of anything about it anyhow. The only thing you can do to 100% certain get a "good sounding piece of wood" is to only buy guitars that actually sound good to your own ears. At that point, there is no need for guesswork. It doesn't matter what causes it to sound good; be thankful that it simply sounds good, and leave it at that.

That said, in the general woodworking sense, it is always preferable to build with the most stable wood feasible. As wood products age and encounter different environments throughout their lives, you want the wood to stay as much as possible the way that you carved it and assembled it. Good old, stable wood used to be all over the place, but it's hard to find these days (thus extremely pricey when you do find it). Those beautiful old, stable trees were harvested to death decades ago, and were used for pretty much everything – even the "low grade" lumber of the day. The lumber back then was also more likely to have been dried and milled properly after being cut. Most commercial lumber today is from new growth farmed trees, usually prematurely harvested. And to make this even worse, the drying/acclimating process is artificially rushed. To put it succinctly, it's crap to work with compared to old, stable wood. It's not as dense, it's not as strong, it doesn't carve as cleanly, and it moves all over the place before, during, and after working with it. Ask anyone who has been doing construction and/or other forms of woodworking over the past 40+ years and they will tell you the same.

In other words, you absolutely do want to put the time and effort into proper wood selection and handling when building a guitar, regardless of whether or not you can actually use the wood to control the tone.
 
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I tend to think the neck and fretboard wood make the largest audible difference all things else considered equal.
 
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Crusty. For a guarantee of the best wood, do you recommend Brasilian or Hollywood?
 
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I can't say with all surety that high-end woods have an effect on your tone but they definitely have an effect on your wallet.
 
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Here's what makes me say wood matters: You can take two guitars of the same model and they aren't necessarily gonna sound identical. Assuming that the hardware and electronics have tolerances such that their effect is minimal, you're left with the wood parts accounting for the difference. If two pieces of the same wood species can sound different, it stands that different species of wood would have a greater impact based on grain structure, density, etc.
 
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